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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Ac], [Ad].
2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) [Tc], [5s], [8d] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) [Ks] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero betsHero ?????

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

BB stats: 61/7/.82

preflop: I just call the 3 bet...I didnt feel the need to get crazy and scare him off...I raised the hand before and won the blinds so i felt he was tryin to scare me

flop: easy bet after he checks...his c/r was odd but i again play slow waiting for the turn

turn: Ok he c/r again....what do yall think? 3bet or call?

ill say what i did after i get a few answers

Incredibly strange line taken by the BB and I'd say he could have anything really as I've seen players do this with no hand at all and with a big hand, against an unknown, it's best to just call down unless you improve on the river of course.

You should cap pre-flop, not sure why you don't want to get your money in with the best hand? No reason here for the fancy play here, this hand probably plays out different if you had capped pre-flop.

my reason for not cappin was b/c of how donktastic he was...i was afraid if i got to aggressive id cause him to get out before the bigger betting rounds

Why didnt you 3 bet flop?

I would've to find out what Im dealing with. Your non cap on the flop I think is just plain dumb. Why are you trying to be sneaky? He's established he has a hand by 3 betting, so get as much money in that pot, You're not scaring him away.

His check raise on the turn is weird, but I still may assume I have the best hand, and 3bet it with him on the turn.

Why?

Because I'm not 100% certain Im ahead. This way I'm getting my bets in, but now can check/check river or flat call river, w/o missing many bets.

Strange hand. You are well-versed enough to know that not capping preflop is horrendous. The hand will play out differently if you cap.

I always find that if I try to get "tricky" I confuse myself and get in spots Im uncomfortable with. Just play straightforward aggro at these limits you will make more $ and you know this.

What they said. Cap preflop, 3-bet flop, slow down if Aggy caps the flop, maybe (although I'd bet/call the turn if Aggy caps the flop, and then check the river UI if he goes for a third CR).

I don't mind preflop. You call with the intention of disguising your hand in order to pick up bets on later streets. But if you just call the flop and call the turn, your pf call was pointless.

Anyway, I would go ahead and 3-bet this flop. Chances are he's got an overpair, and chances are he thinks his hand is better than yours.

Since you never capped the flop, go ahead and 3-bet this turn. You're ahead of way more than you're behind too.

feel free to skip down to the bolded part, which basically summarizes everything.


you're reasoning is that you don't think he has a particularly strong hand even though he is playing it aggressively, so you play your hand slow to pick up more bets on the later streets. this is fine, except that you have to realize AA will not often improve post-flop. given your reasoning, you have to raise this turn to play the hand consistently.

so one way to play the hand is to play it as you did, then raise the turn.

another way is to just play it standardly, by betting the crap out of it.

i think those are the two ways to play it that are consistent all the way through, and therefore at least one must be the best. at low limits, the standard way is usually the best way for a reason.

it is often tempting to try to disguise a big hand and get it paid off by playing it slow, either if the table has been playing really tight, or if you've raised a lot recently. but don't worry, especially about the latter. rarely have people been playing enough attention to know your patterns well enough to know that you have a hand this time. furthermore, even if they have been, there'll be plenty of bets in the pot until they have enough information to fold. and even if all that takes place, they have to assume you are a decent player, and aren't just tilting or playing a hand not according to previous patterns, which is a tough assumption to make at low limits.

sooooo
don't worry about the last hand(s) and play it standardly, unless player-specific reads make you think there is a better way to play it. but you have missed out on two small bets earlier in the hand here by assuming he has a weakish hand - if you just call this turn, you are missing a big bet, and possibly two if he three-bets.

basically, if you want to play this hand slow, you have to raise this turn. otherwise this line is worse than the standard line.

deep breath
daniel

hehe take a huff from ur enhaler danny...of course i raised the turn and he folded

Before reading the replies here, I'm gonna go ahead and make an odd suggestion that I bet few people have made.

I think you should go ahead and call the turn raise, and then raise the river

Wang

u got way too fancy

seriously dude
i hate posting stuff like that, since invariably i wrap it up in one sentence. then i wish my brain was good enough to just spit out that one sentence in the first place without all the crap in between.

advice to others: do less drugs in high school

i agree and against just about every other player i dont use this line...but I was about 99% certain he was tryin to make a play on me b/c i had been raising the hands before. He did end up folding the turn and i think i may have gotten an extra bet out of him....

was an interesting suggestion that someone made about waiting till the river to go crazy on him...just not sure on that line though