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teneight
he is going to be on Jimmy kimmel on dec. 19h. ABC just incase someone didnt know. it is on at midnight


good luck


teneight

Jimmy kimmel Rules!!! ...not as much as conan though
STYLINHAWYN
QUOTE (teneight)
Jimmy kimmel Rules!!! ...not as much as conan though


thx for the heads up, TIVO is set to record, would be cool to know what he is doing with all that money he won.

meh, not much a Jimmy Kimmel fan, he doesn't have the Texas Walker Ranger Video Clip lever
dereeekho
i'd rather see kimmel interview hachem than conan. conan has no clue about poker, and i think kimmel frequents vegas often.
TCB_Elvis
So which date is it..............17th or 19th?
Royal_Tour
meh,

They might as well just start interviewing all lottery winners too.
RhinestoneCowboy
I won a free sausage mcmuffin in the last monopoly contest at McDonalds... Ill be on January 3rd.
Ron_Mexico
I saw him at an outdoor coffee house in Palm Beach the other day. I was sitting at the table next to him enjoying a bloody mary with a young lady.

He leaned over and asked me to PASS THE SUGA. I politely declined and hit my boat.




Royal, you are a bitter man. I mean your taste, not your disposition. Would you please start eating more fruit and lay of the asparagus?
Royal_Tour
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Royal, you are a bitter man. I mean your taste, not your disposition. Would you please start eating more fruit and lay of the asparagus?



hmmmm...... No.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico)




Royal, you are a bitter man. I mean your taste, not your disposition. Would you please start eating more fruit and lay of the asparagus?



hmmmm...... No.



fine, finish yourself next time.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico)




Royal, you are a bitter man. I mean your taste, not your disposition. Would you please start eating more fruit and lay of the asparagus?



hmmmm...... No.



fine, finish yourself next time.


Bradburn tells me otherwise, you're just too picky. Althought, granted, he would suck back anything in a semi liquid state, I mean the guy can make fear factor food stunts look like a delicacy
kook04
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
meh,

They might as well just start interviewing all lottery winners too.


Are you a better poker player than Joe Hachem?
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
meh,

They might as well just start interviewing all lottery winners too.


Are you a better poker player than Joe Hachem?


I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
meh,

They might as well just start interviewing all lottery winners too.


Are you a better poker player than Joe Hachem?


I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.



He'd probably hold theirs as well. Just Saying. He has supple, soft hands, but tough fingertips from typing all had. Like little mini pee pee's with bulbus tips.
kook04
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.


I agree that winning a WSOP bracelet makes you a poker phenom. However, The both won a braclet against (at the time) the largest field ever assembled. In Hachem's case, he finished 1st in a tourney that took over a week of 12 - 15 hour days to complete, and featured 5,600 players.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am the best player in my home games, and I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15. You used the "lottery" analogy, and I don't think it holds water in this case. The mathmatical probablity of someone winning this years main even because they not only "got lucky", but didn't get unlucky is astronomical.

Essentially, I think Joe Hachem is a good poker player who managed to avoid disaster for a week. That's what it takes to win a tournament of this size. A terrible (or even bad) poker player is not going to win a week long tourney against 5,600 people no matter how lucky he is. Someone could suck out as and 80/20 dog ten times in that week, and it still wouldn't be enough to win. You need to play well also.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.


I agree that winning a WSOP bracelet makes you a poker phenom. However, The both won a braclet against (at the time) the largest field ever assembled. In Hachem's case, he finished 1st in a tourney that took over a week of 12 - 15 hour days to complete, and featured 5,600 players.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am the best player in my home games, and I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15. You used the "lottery" analogy, and I don't think it holds water in this case. The mathmatical probablity of someone winning this years main even because they not only "got lucky", but didn't get unlucky is astronomical.

Essentially, I think Joe Hachem is a good poker player who managed to avoid disaster for a week. That's what it takes to win a tournament of this size. A terrible (or even bad) poker player is not going to win a week long tourney against 5,600 people no matter how lucky he is. Someone could suck out as and 80/20 dog ten times in that week, and it still wouldn't be enough to win. You need to play well also.


who finished second again?
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.


I agree that winning a WSOP bracelet makes you a poker phenom. However, The both won a braclet against (at the time) the largest field ever assembled. In Hachem's case, he finished 1st in a tourney that took over a week of 12 - 15 hour days to complete, and featured 5,600 players.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am the best player in my home games, and I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15. You used the "lottery" analogy, and I don't think it holds water in this case. The mathmatical probablity of someone winning this years main even because they not only "got lucky", but didn't get unlucky is astronomical.

Essentially, I think Joe Hachem is a good poker player who managed to avoid disaster for a week. That's what it takes to win a tournament of this size. A terrible (or even bad) poker player is not going to win a week long tourney against 5,600 people no matter how lucky he is. Someone could suck out as and 80/20 dog ten times in that week, and it still wouldn't be enough to win. You need to play well also.



I never said he was bad, or terrible. But i do think there was a huge amount of luck involved in his win.
You asked me, if i thought i was a better player, well i cant say Yes to that, but i can say i'm sure I could hold my own. without any real worry.

Trouble with 15 eh?, well sucks to be you. Considering i finish in the money in MTT's very often, have a few large 300 + players wins, and have worked my way down to top 100 in fields of 3 -4k players in the PP 20+ buy-ins, I think its fair of me to say a player like him did get very lucky to win with such a large field.
I know i would expect to shit horseshoes right after a win with a field that large.
Royal_Tour
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QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
I dunno,

I mean Moneymaker has the same title Hachem has. Not implying anything, but i'm sure i could hold my own agianst either of them.


I agree that winning a WSOP bracelet makes you a poker phenom. However, The both won a braclet against (at the time) the largest field ever assembled. In Hachem's case, he finished 1st in a tourney that took over a week of 12 - 15 hour days to complete, and featured 5,600 players.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am the best player in my home games, and I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15. You used the "lottery" analogy, and I don't think it holds water in this case. The mathmatical probablity of someone winning this years main even because they not only "got lucky", but didn't get unlucky is astronomical.

Essentially, I think Joe Hachem is a good poker player who managed to avoid disaster for a week. That's what it takes to win a tournament of this size. A terrible (or even bad) poker player is not going to win a week long tourney against 5,600 people no matter how lucky he is. Someone could suck out as and 80/20 dog ten times in that week, and it still wouldn't be enough to win. You need to play well also.


who finished second again?


Baaaahahh!,, NH
kook04
QUOTE (kook04)
I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15.


Nevermind. Based on your response to this quote, it's obvious that you've never busted out of a tournment early in your life. With that knowledge, I will conceed to you that you are better than me at not only poker, but at having a civil, logical, discussion. Good work.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (kook04)
I have nights where I can't even make it through a field of 15.


Nevermind. Based on your response to this quote, it's obvious that you've never busted out of a tournment early in your life. With that knowledge, I will conceed to you that you are better than me at not only poker, but at having a civil, logical, discussion. Good work.


You havent had sex in a while have you?

Look at what you're doing, you look foolish. You're trying to get me to say something along the lines of "yes, i think i'm better than Hachem"

You called me out with a purpose, you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it, expecting me to come back with a response, You then touched on your own experiences, and when i decide to rebuttle with my experiences you reply with a sarcastic jackass response.
I told you exactly what i thought, Guy is good, and got real lucky. I've never won anything big but I think i could hold my own.

why didnt this end here?
kook04
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it


No, I quoted your entire post. Therefore, your implication that I took what you said out of context in an attempt to make you look foolish is false. It just so happened that what you said, even in context, was foolish. Good game.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it


No, I quoted your entire post. Therefore, your implication that I took what you said out of context in an attempt to make you look foolish is false. It just so happened that what you said, even in context, was foolish. Good game.


why is it foolish? Royal only said that he thought he could hold his own against Hachem. He didn't say he would own him, just hold his own. If he feels like he is a good player, then why is this foolish?
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it


No, I quoted your entire post. Therefore, your implication that I took what you said out of context in an attempt to make you look foolish is false. It just so happened that what you said, even in context, was foolish. Good game.


You're right, U did quote the entire post. I cant keep track of them sometimes.

But now that i look back, you did something even worse. You took my post.

"meh, why dont they just start interviewing lottery winners" and decided to branch this off with the idea that i was implying, I'm better than Hachem.

That my friend is False. This post could be tied in with the notion that i believe he was lucky, and infact who ever wins with a field of over 5k players is probably very lucky.
And you cannot argue that fact.

Good game? You arent winning this debate, theres nothing to debate. You failed miserably at trying to prove something, which I still have no idea what that was, because you wont admitt to anything, You just continue to post the same thing with slightly varied text.
kook04
QUOTE (ShakeZuma)
why is it foolish? Royal only said that he thought he could hold his own against Hachem. He didn't say he would own him, just hold his own. If he feels like he is a good player, then why is this foolish?


No, that is not the statement I am referring to. It is very possible that Royal could hold his own against Hachem and Moneymaker. I don't doubt that possiblility.

The statement I was referring to was "they might as well interview all of the lotter winners". Which implied that Hachem winning his bracelet was 100% luck, 0% skill (i.e., a lottery). I think we can all at least agree that there is 0% skill in winning the lottery.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (ShakeZuma)
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it


No, I quoted your entire post. Therefore, your implication that I took what you said out of context in an attempt to make you look foolish is false. It just so happened that what you said, even in context, was foolish. Good game.


why is it foolish? Royal only said that he thought he could hold his own against Hachem. He didn't say he would own him, just hold his own. If he feels like he is a good player, then why is this foolish?


I get the feeling he just wants me to say something like "I'm better than Hachem" so he can quote that, and try to make me look like an ass.

He doesnt like me, thats fine, I have my own fan club. laugh.gif lol.
RhinestoneCowboy
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
you weeded out my 1 line in my post, and quoted it


No, I quoted your entire post. Therefore, your implication that I took what you said out of context in an attempt to make you look foolish is false. It just so happened that what you said, even in context, was foolish. Good game.


You're so kooky
kook04
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
This post could be tied in with the notion that i believe he was lucky, and infact who ever wins with a field of over 5k players is probably very lucky.
And you cannot argue that fact.


And I don't argue that fact. Anyone who wins with any decent sized field is lucky. However, my stance is that no amount of luck will win you a tournament of that size without skill. And as I said above, winning the lottery (your analogy) takes 0% skill and 100% luck. Therefore it is insulting to Joe Hachem (and anyone who wins a large tourney) to equate thier victory with winning the lottery, not to mention ignorant.

As for the reason I chose to respond to your original post, it's because I see this same false logic all of the time and decided, for once, to actually provide some input.
RhinestoneCowboy
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (ShakeZuma)
why is it foolish? Royal only said that he thought he could hold his own against Hachem. He didn't say he would own him, just hold his own. If he feels like he is a good player, then why is this foolish?


No, that is not the statement I am referring to. It is very possible that Royal could hold his own against Hachem and Moneymaker. I don't doubt that possiblility.

The statement I was referring to was "they might as well interview all of the lotter winners". Which implied that Hachem winning his bracelet was 100% luck, 0% skill (i.e., a lottery). I think we can all at least agree that there is 0% skill in winning the lottery.


Whatever, you gotta have the skill to pick the right fortune cookie for your winning numbers!!
dEv~
I'm in your fan club royal. I don't know what this guy's problem is but he must really like to take everything you say to heart. I guess he wasn't able to join your fan club but joined Joe Hachem's instead.
Royal_Tour
The statement I was referring to was "they might as well interview all of the lotter winners". Which implied that Hachem winning his bracelet was 100% luck, 0% skill (i.e., a lottery). I think we can all at least agree that there is 0% skill in winning the lottery.

Well it does take some skill to not throw your cards over before the action has finished.

SW.

There, you happy? now you can tell when theres a bit of sarcasm in my post. Since when would anyone agree to a WSOP win being 100% luck?

I just figured my post was self explanitory, ie: takes a lot of luck to win something like that against that many strong players. Such a very small margin vs Pro's that luck is sometimes the only deciding factor.
and a interview with a unknown who became known from his 1 win, to me is like interviewing a guy who just hit the powerball jackpot.

I'm sure it would be exciting to hear about, but if i had the choice, id even pick phil laak over him.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (dEv~)
I'm in your fan club royal. I don't know what this guy's problem is but he must really like to take everything you say to heart. I guess he wasn't able to join your fan club but joined Joe Hachem's instead.


lol.
kook04
I am Joe Hachem.

PASS THE SUGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
I am Joe Hachem.

PASS THE SUGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HU challenge? for a brazillion dollars?
laugh.gif
kook04
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (kook04)
I am Joe Hachem.

PASS THE SUGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HU challenge? for a brazillion dollars?
laugh.gif


Bring it, but I must warn you: I bought a scratch off lottery ticket at the gas station this morning and won $2. I'm running good.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
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I am Joe Hachem.

PASS THE SUGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HU challenge? for a brazillion dollars?
laugh.gif


Bring it, but I must warn you: I bought a scratch off lottery ticket at the gas station this morning and won $2. I'm running good.


alright, then we'll play best out of 5 to help eliminate the "luck" factor.

and i just saved 50.00 on car insurance, so i'm running pretty skillfully right now, takes skill to save on car insurance
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (kook04)
QUOTE (Royal_Tour)
QUOTE (kook04)
I am Joe Hachem.

PASS THE SUGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HU challenge? for a brazillion dollars?
laugh.gif


Bring it, but I must warn you: I bought a scratch off lottery ticket at the gas station this morning and won $2. I'm running good.


alright, then we'll play best out of 5 to help eliminate the "luck" factor.

and i just saved 50.00 on car insurance, so i'm running pretty skillfully right now, takes skill to save on car insurance



Actually, its lucky if you don't get into an accident
dEv~
I hit a deer last week and caused $2000 damage to my car. Only had to pay a $100 deductable but I still can't call myself lucky.
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