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Hobbes
New to Omaha, go easy on me...

2nd hand of a SNG, I'm on the button with A icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif . Three players limp to me. What's my play here? What are good flops for this hand? Am I only looking for hearts here? How strong is a ten with a ragged board?

The hand sort of played itself after the flop, so I'm more interested in pre-flop play here.
Deepkoncntrtion
On the button this early in I would limp, its not a premium starting hand, but 1 you definitely want 2 play in LP. You will have position thru-out the hand which is extremely important in plo.

Assuming the blinds start @ 10 20, there would be 90 in the pot already so your getting 4.5-1 odds with your call, and 5-1 if the SB completes.

Don't know the site you were on, so your starting stacks would of been either $1000 or $1500...if the blinds start @ 10 20, you all have either 50BB or 75BB. I, personally would want the limpers to stay in the hand, so I wouldn't raise in this situation. A hand like this is capable of flopping a monster, such as top set w. the nut flush draw or a str8 with flush potential.

Played in position, this early on, it's a great hand to take a players stack with.
Hobbes
I limped, but I kept thinking it was kind of weak. Results were optimal though:

Flop came two hearts and a ten. A bet and one call to me, I raise the pot, two calls. Turn is a heart giving me the nut flush. Checked to me, I bet the pot, two calls. River is another ten. Checked to me, all in, two calls. One guy had a king high flush, the other guy had a small full house (and a low flush on the turn).

Was I being too aggressive when I was making my hands? Since it was only the 2nd hand I didn't know that these guys were capable of making such bad plays, so in a better game I might lose the action by pushing?
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Nut flush+straight draw would be nice too.
I guess you can't really flop a wrap though...

But all the non-counterfieted straights you make with that hand are the nuts, no?

I don't know if I would get too frisky with it pre-flop... If you got popped with a big reraise and someone has aces you would be in a fairly bad spot heads up. Your ace and tens would both be dominated. (looks like on average you are a 2 to 1 dog vs aces.)
Davin
QUOTE (Hobbes)
I limped, but I kept thinking it was kind of weak. Results were optimal though:

Flop came two hearts and a ten. A bet and one call to me, I raise the pot, two calls. Turn is a heart giving me the nut flush. Checked to me, I bet the pot, two calls. River is another ten. Checked to me, all in, two calls. One guy had a king high flush, the other guy had a small full house (and a low flush on the turn).

Was I being too aggressive when I was making my hands? Since it was only the 2nd hand I didn't know that these guys were capable of making such bad plays, so in a better game I might lose the action by pushing?


raising pf here would be bad. you hit your dream flop, but the vast majority of the flops suck horribly for you.

the reasons your hand is playable:
- you have a pair, set possibilites
- you're double suited, one to the nuts
- you have position

the reasons why your hand sucks:
- if a j,q,k hit the flop, you're most likely drawing to a gutshot
- if you do flop a 10, there will always be straight draws out there. there are many scare cards on the turn/river if you dont improve from your set
- if you flop a set, and your opponent flops a higher set, you're drawing thin unless there are 2 hearts on the board
- your ace is pretty useless. the only way it comes into play as the nuts is through the flush or a perfect jqk board w/ no pairs and no 3 flushes
- only 2 of your cards are working for straights at a time.
- your other flush is only 10-high, so your flush draw for that hand is extremely weak

never raise this pf in a full-ring game. shorthanded on the button, then yes... this is a raising hand.


the rest of the streets look fine. you always want to pot this flop, bc w/ a ten on the flop, there will always be straight draws. NEVER EVER SLOWPLAY in omaha.
Hobbes
QUOTE (Davin)
raising pf here would be bad. you hit your dream flop, but the vast majority of the flops suck horribly for you.

the reasons your hand is playable:
- you have a pair, set possibilites
- you're double suited, one to the nuts
- you have position

the reasons why your hand sucks:
- if a j,q,k hit the flop, you're most likely drawing to a gutshot
- if you do flop a 10, there will always be straight draws out there. there are many scare cards on the turn/river if you dont improve from your set
- if you flop a set, and your opponent flops a higher set, you're drawing thin unless there are 2 hearts on the board
- your ace is pretty useless. the only way it comes into play as the nuts is through the flush or a perfect jqk board w/ no pairs and no 3 flushes
- only 2 of your cards are working for straights at a time.
- your other flush is only 10-high, so your flush draw for that hand is extremely weak

never raise this pf in a full-ring game. shorthanded on the button, then yes... this is a raising hand.


the rest of the streets look fine. you always want to pot this flop, bc w/ a ten on the flop, there will always be straight draws. NEVER EVER SLOWPLAY in omaha.


That's good stuff. Thanks.
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