That guy that flipped out and started running through the plane and claiming that he had a bomb. I guess he didn't have his medicine. Then his wife ran after him but the US Marshals shot him. All I can think is that the guy was a freaking moron for doing that. I've heard the story told so many ways that I still have no idea what actually happened. What kind of person runs on a 747, though ?

Could that be considered a suicide?

Suicide by cop.

I would seriously hope he would get shot! That's the kind of situation where you need to shoot first, and ask questions later. If a guy does that and doesn't get shot I would seriously start to worry about the safety of airline flight.

Why not just shoot him in the leg?

f that....1 shot 1 kill

I feel for the guy's family, but seriously, if the Marshall had hesitated in firing his weapon and the guy really DID have a bomb and was going for it...<shudder>

The Marshall acted exactly as he should have in that situation, there's really no wiggle room in a split-second situation like that. What was he going to do? The Marshall ordered the guy to drop his bag, the guy refused and then reached his hand into it. If he hadn't taken the shot then the media and everyone else would be asking "How could you NOT take that shot in that situation? Why would you act against your training? What if you were wrong?"

What happened is exactly what should have happened, take your meds before you get on a plane kiddies...

Better him than me......





NEXT!!

The Marshall had to perform his job. He had to protect the passengers on the plane, the airport workers and the airport itself. It is tragic, but he had no choice. As someone else said, what if the guy really had a bomb and he was not stopped...it would have been devastating.

LoL f'n classic

Spot on man.

nice bluff.

The big reason would be becuase if he actual had a bomb and was going for it, shooting him in the leg wouldn't do to much.

I mean sure he would fall, but then with his arms and hands go for the bomb and blow up the plane.

No you're wrong. Shooting him in the leg would make him think twice about even touching that bomb.



sw

This whole situation honestly works out perfect. This idiot is the perfect example for the next idiot who tries to pull some terrorist B.S. on a plane.

I agree that he should have been shot, although NOT mortally wounded. Also, if he would have had a bomb, what would have happened if the bomb was on him when he was shot? I think it was both good and bad. I wonder if his wife can file a wrongful death lawsuit legally, or if the ari marshall was 100% in the right.

If the idiot is screaming that he has a bomb in his bag and is reaching into the bag what options does the air marshall have? Shoot to kill. You can't wait to see if he actually has anything, by then it's too late and the entire plane is blown apart. Now the same people who say he shouldn't have been killed would be saying the air marshall should have killed him.

darwinism

Too hard. At that point, the Marshal's only job is to decommission the threat. It's an absolute tragedy, and it's a devastating course of events, but he saw a threat and pulled the trigger.

I admire the Marshal's courage, to be honest. I know I'd have a pretty rough time taking that shot.

Ugh...

Ice

Had he only wounded him the threat will still be active (ie. he could still detonate a bomb). It is a tragedy. I'm sure his family will sue everyone and their brother for this. Bottom line is that the Marshall ended a potentially devistating incident.

This would be very difficult to do and still incapacitate him. No I think if the lives of all those on the plane is in your hands, you shoot, and shoot to kill. It's a tragedy for certain, but I think the marshall was in the right.

--RuffRidr

The family has said nothing of wrongful death and fully understood the events that took place. They are all in shock, but no one can blame the air marshall for what he did. For anyone to think that this was, in any way, shape, or form, a wrongful death, is retarded, and that person should be shot and killed too.

you know lawyers are jumping at chance to talk to the family.

I would have shot him in the head too. Funny part is, i might of actually shot him twice.


HELLO?!?!?! The guy is screaming bomb on a plane in a country that is undoubtly sensitive and trigger-happy to terroristic threats. This guy is a friggin moron and deserved what he got. I said it before and im gonna say it again......

Better HIM than ME!

In my opinion, not only should we not have a funeral for this guy (although he had a proven mental problem), but instead we should have a friggin party for these air marshalls, who are undoubtedly heroes of this beloved nation. Thank god we still have people like this in our country who do their job, and who stand up for justice and what is right. I like these air marshall guys.

Don't be a stupid ass.

YOU'RE a stupid ass.





BWAHAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSSSS

I guarentee you that someone will file a lawsuit. Even if it's someone who saw it happen and will have emotional scars for the rest of their lives. I agree that "ambulance chasing" lawyers have probably been beating the family's doors down. Especially since I read today that some passengers are saying the guy never said he had a bomb.

Either way, the Marshall should be commended for a job well done.

It wasn't a 747. It was an Airbus. Get your facts straight.

While I agree that the air marshalls did the right thing and did their job, I really question whether we need air marshalls at all.

We already have xray machines, metal detectors, and a thorough security check that should prevent most deadly objects from being brought onto the plane. And Adding some secure locking cockpit doors would be enough to prevent anyone from taking over the cockpit.

And when compared to the cost of maintaining and training a force of air marshalls, we would probably get more bang for our buck by spending that money on improving our other current sercurity measures (or paying for more secure cockpit doors).

And allowing a guy with a gun (even law enforcement) on passenger plane isnt really a good idea cosidering that:

1. the gun could be taken away from him and used against others, and in the process introducing a gun into an otherwise gun-free environment.
2. firing in an enclosed and crowded space flying at thousands of feet above the earth doesnt sound like a good idea.
3. human judgement made with a weapon in seconds with little information usually does work out too well.

On top of all that even if someone managed to smuggle bomb through all the security we already have (in which the odds seem pretty low), as long as the guy stays quietly in his seat and birngs no attention to himself, there's almost nothing the air marshall can do. I cant picture most guys smart enough to bypass all the security will run around on the plane sceaming that they have a bomb.


EDIT: LoL the censored word in my post is c0ckpit

You're a sick fuck, and I'm glad you can hide behind the anonymity of your online identity.

Not only are you a sick fuck, you're an embarrassment to Ghostface and ALL member of the clan.

Do you really revel in the death of a man who was mentally ill, and can absolutely not be held accountable for his actions? It's hard to believe you're willing to dance in the street- and on the grave- of a dead man who truly meant no harm to anyone, even though you're fully capable of admitting (see above post) that he was ill.

Gravely accepting the actions of the marshall is one thing; taking pleasure in the violent death of a confused man who meant no harm is another.

Sick fuck.

Ice

Do you actually think that I LIKE people who have families and you have problems????? NO

I make that thread because I think that people who are calling for these air marshalls to be taken to court are retarded. Yes i feel for his family, and yes I think it's definitely a tragedy that this happened, but my point is that it's these air marshalls' jobs doing what they did. And while I'm glad they are doing it, I am not in any way happy that this man died.

I'm sorry i forgot the SW

From what I'm hearing now, it doesn't sound like the guy deserved to be shot. It sounds like he had a fight with his wife and he ran away screaming about the argument and the air marshals thought he was doing something. Geez, he has an argument with his wife and now he's dead. I've had bad days, too, I'm glad no one shot me for it.

For those who disagree, replace the 42 year old (or however old he was) with an 11 year old boy who runs away screaming and some air marshal shoots him in the head. Now what do you think ? Ok , now what if that 11 year old screams that he has a bomb, and the marshal shoots the 11 year old in the head. I see a lot of problems here.

It makes no sense for this procedure. If you did have a bomb, why would run away from the plane proclaiming that you had a bomb ? You had like a 3 hour flight to detonate the bomb but you chose the 5 minutes where the plane was being let off to detonate it ? I think these cops should use some common sense but it sounds more like they were programmed to be terminators.

I don't think we really need air marshals, I think we need like 2 300 pound bouncers on the plane instead. I don't think guns are necessary on the air plane. I can see potential ways that terrorists could actually overtake air marshals pretty easily on an airplane anyway, provided one of them is willing to sacrifice himself for the good of their group.

Here you go



He ran around like a wild man, refused to listen to the air marshalls, and the marshals thought their life was in danger. They are trained to react to these situations in this way, so cut the bullshit. It wasn't an 11 year old kid, and the guy wasn't on his hands and knees begging for these air marshals to not bitch slap him one more time. He clearly disobeyed the air marshals' commands and when they thought that their, and everybody else's lives, were in danger, they acted instinctively.

This is one of the most retarded things i've ever read.

#1 - You were not there, none of us were, the only thing we know for sure is that the guy (even admittedly from his wife) was causing a scene. Given what has happened on airplanes recently, and the training that the Marshalls have gone through, it's safe to assume they handled the situation correctly.

#2 - Of course they wouldn't shoot an 11 year old child. Children run and scream, that's what they do. Adults do not. It's an entirely different scenario when you have a 40 year old running at you, reaching into a bag, and screaming something that sounds like bomb. I GUARANTEE that if you were on that plane you would have approved of the situation.

This same attitude applies to people who are completely against the war in Iraq, or some of the police shootings of late. You have to think about more than just "Well they are the government (or police) and must have done something wrong". It's always more than that.

News isn't always correct. Not sure where Yahoo gets their information but I heard a passenger claim that she never heard the man shout bomb at all. Of course he was frantic. He just had a fight with his wife. I think I've only heard one eye witness report and she claimed that she never heard him say bomb.

Only other thing I can think is that the guy wanted to die. When the marshals told him to stop the first time, it's my understanding that their guns weren't drawn at that point because they only draw their weapons to fire. So if the air marshals didn't identify themselves in the beginning in some way, then they have a serious lawsuit on their hands in my opinion. If they told him to stop but didn't show a badge or point their gun at him then they have a problem. They claim he went for his bag but we really don't know.

You people are amazing.

The funny thing is there are enough of you to win a presendential election. You just are too stupid to pull it off.

Dude you're killin me (no pun intended). The guy didn't want to die, he had schizophrenia

Main Entry: schizo·phre·nia
Pronunciation: "skit-s&-'frE-nE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
1 : a psychotic disorder characterized by loss of contact with the environment, by noticeable deterioration in the level of functioning in everyday life, and by disintegration of personality expressed as disorder of feeling, thought (as in hallucinations and delusions), and conduct -- called also dementia praecox


News may not always be true, but you can't argue with dictionaries.

Well, I've never once heard that he had schizophrenia. I heard that he was Bi-polar, though. If he had schizophrenia, then that explains it but Bi-Polar just affects your moods.

I heard he was half mexican and had cronic chest pains.

I'm sure Yahoo has a more credible source than "I heard that..."

C'mon now be serious kid