theredpill99
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 2:41 PM
Hi. Playing a little limit hold'em. I haven't played it for months and I don't play it very often since I'm not a proven winner.
.25/.50 limit hold'em
10 handed
Qh Qc
Hero raises in EP
All fold
BB calls
Flop: Kc Ad 4d
BB checks
Hero bets
BB calls
Turn: 8s
BB checks
Hero bets
BB calls
River: Jd
BB bets
Hero folds
Good ?
Actuary
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 2:48 PM
I call.
6:1
silly donk bet.
probably lose.
all else, great, of course.
meh
with no read, I call river.
Often, I fold this. It's not a huge leak to call with no read.
Emptyeye
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 2:57 PM
Being me, I probably wince at the bet and call, though absent any reads, I'd be fairly sure he rivered the flush.
Folding is not a bad play, however, and in the long run is probably the winning one; I just personally have a hard time folding on the river to one bet.
theredpill99
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 2:58 PM
Thanks. But I would possibly check QQ with A and K on flop against 4 or 5 opponents ?
screech
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 2:59 PM
The only hands I think you can beat on the river are QJ/JT.
You played it well.
Actuary
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 3:02 PM
I missed flush coming in.
good play.
somedays I call.
I like to lose money to see what they had.
Edit: Give me 2 more bets in pot, I call it 80% of the time, donk bets bother me!
theredpill99
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 3:04 PM
QUOTE (Actuary)
I like to lose money to see what they had.
LOL
Emptyeye
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 3:11 PM
QUOTE (theredpill99)
Thanks. But I would possibly check QQ with A and K on flop against 4 or 5 opponents ?
Not a bad play by any means, though I may throw out a continuation bet anyway depending on my position. In EP, check/fold is probably the "correct" play against multiple opponents (Especially in micro-limit), yes.
Actuary: That's my big problem at the moment--calling down when simply folding on a given street would obviously be the better option because "I THINK I know what they have...but I HAVE to see it to be SURE."
Actuary
Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 3:13 PM
QUOTE (Emptyeye)
Actuary: That's my big problem at the moment--calling down when simply folding on a given street would obviously be the better option because "I THINK I know what they have...but I HAVE to see it to be SURE."
to me, a lot of it is his waiting till river.
W/o Flush Draw, I usually call these late bets.
They can be deperate mis-draw attempts.
Most other better hands have raised/bet by now
Zach6668
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 12:21 AM
I would most likely cringe and call the river... I think you'll be ahead more often then you suspect. Villain could easily have a smaller PP as well, and we all know that donks will wake up and bet with far worse than that in these situations. I, like Actuary, like showdowns.
Zach
Zach6668
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 12:39 AM
Also, what do we do if we are raised on either the flop or the turn?
Can I assume a bet/fold line, or possibly a bet/call on the flop, fold turn UI?
Or, if we only get called on the flop, a bet/fold on the turn?
Thanks.
Zach
Canada
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 6:30 AM
QUOTE (Actuary)
donk bets bother me!
It's a nicely executed WA/WB line.
That shouldn't upset you :wink:
screech
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 6:34 AM
QUOTE
Also, what do we do if we are raised on either the flop or the turn?
Play it about the same as you would if you were HU with a pp that flops 3rd pair.
Actuary
Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 7:52 AM
QUOTE (Canada)
QUOTE (Actuary)
donk bets bother me!
It's a nicely executed WA/WB line.
That shouldn't upset you :wink:
if BB has a weak Ace?
good point.
I donk bet too sometimes.
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