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Abbaddabba
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [Kh], [Qh].
UTG calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [7c], [5s] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) [5c] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (14 BB) [Qs] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 14 BB


No info on SB. UTG was a dong berry who gaybet relentlessly without improvement.
screech
Bet.
Abbaddabba
SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?

The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here.
Zach6668
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?

The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here.


Uh.. Donkeys
AlphaOmega
I've seen people check/call two cold all the way down when they are unsure about their kicker.

Assuming we should bet the river, are we bet/folding or bet/calling?
screech
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?
The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here.


64, 86, pp's, Ax, two clubs, 7x, Kx.
nachunja
say hero bets, then gets reraised.
then what?
DrZebra
B/C for sure!
there is no indication someone is setting up for a c/r on the river.
you're now beating AK, and SB (who should not "have us scared") is a passive wus.
econ_tim
don't be scared of the scare card
screech
QUOTE (nachunja)
say hero bets, then gets reraised.
then what?


Then we compare the size of the pot to the chances we have the best hand.
So we would call here, unless we have a program that shows us our opponents flush.

If you keep fearing these what if situations, you'll miss out on a lot of value.
Abbaddabba
It's not so much of a what if, as it is an issue of probability.

How often will two people following this lines taken have neither a 5 or a flush draw on the turn? (or better, i guess)
DrZebra
at 2/4 on party!!!!

98%
Abbaddabba
2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose.
screech
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose.


No, but they are filled with enough bad players that your hand is good here well over 50% of the time.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose.




then your table selection is sucking balls
Abbaddabba
QUOTE
then your table selection is sucking balls


Considering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. laugh.gif
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
QUOTE
then your table selection is sucking balls


Considering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. laugh.gif




two words: datamining
econ_tim
krishnan, a regular on the 2+2 HUSH forum, sells large databases of $2/$4 Party hands

http://www.pokerhandhistories.com/

$20 for 400,000 plus hands
Zach6668
QUOTE (KDawgCometh)
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
QUOTE
then your table selection is sucking balls


Considering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. laugh.gif




two words: datamining


I think that is one word...
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Zach6668)
QUOTE (KDawgCometh)
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
QUOTE
then your table selection is sucking balls


Considering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. laugh.gif




two words: datamining


I think that is one word...




no, its two, just for here it gets put together as one, either way, the OP needs to datamine like its his job. When you aren't playing, you should always be datamining and when you are playing, you can still datamine because of party's 10 table limit
royal_elliott
two words: datamining

What's the best program for datamining, or, how do you go about datamining?

Thanks.
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