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screech
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Preflop: Hero is SB with J:club:, A:diamond:.
2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2:diamond:, 4:diamond:, J:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Button calls.

River: (11.50 BB) Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Mainly concerned with my river play. As always, comments on other streets are welcome.
DrZebra
Interesting.
I would've led out the river since he didn't 3-bet the turn.
However, as is, why not jam another bet in there on the river? Is the flush really that plausible?
wrto4556
its QQ he's worried about, me thinks.
screech
QUOTE (wrto4556)
its QQ he's worried about, me thinks.


You thinks right. That, AQ, AdKd, and maybe AdTd.
DrZebra
Wouldn't the nut flush draw with top pair have 3-bet the turn?
screech
QUOTE (DrZebra)
Wouldn't the nut flush draw with top pair have 3-bet the turn?


Yeah you're right. That's only 1 or 2 combos though.

What range do you put him on until the river card hits? How many hands am I ahead of?
jayboogie
I think you should bet this river and possibly lay the hand down to a raise if your confident in your read and your opponent is fairly straight forward and doesn't get out of line.

I would bet/call in most instances and possibly lay it down to a raise with a good read. There's really nothing he raises the river with that you beat, so a laydown makes sense, but then again this is a low limit game so when in doubt, you should probably call just in case.
screech
QUOTE (jayboogie)
I think you should bet this river and possibly lay the hand down to a raise if your confident in your read and your opponent is fairly straight forward and doesn't get out of line.

I would bet/call in most instances and possibly lay it down to a raise with a good read. There's really nothing he raises the river with that you beat, so a laydown makes sense, but then again this is a low limit game so when in doubt, you should probably call just in case.


That's the thing. I'm not 94% certain that a river raise means I'm beat. Maybe 90% of the time it does, but that still means I have to usually pay off.
jayboogie
QUOTE (screech)
QUOTE (jayboogie)
I think you should bet this river and possibly lay the hand down to a raise if your confident in your read and your opponent is fairly straight forward and doesn't get out of line.

I would bet/call in most instances and possibly lay it down to a raise with a good read. There's really nothing he raises the river with that you beat, so a laydown makes sense, but then again this is a low limit game so when in doubt, you should probably call just in case.


That's the thing. I'm not 94% certain that a river raise means I'm beat. Maybe 90% of the time it does, but that still means I have to usually pay off.


Well it really depends on how confident you are in your reads and if you're willing to trust them. Playing good poker sometimes means going against the mathematically correct play, when you trust your instincts you can make laydowns like this once in a while, probably shouldn't happen often though.

On the other hand if your not sure and would like to showdown the hand, I don't mind the check/call on the end either.
screech
QUOTE (jayboogie)
QUOTE (screech)
QUOTE (jayboogie)
I think you should bet this river and possibly lay the hand down to a raise if your confident in your read and your opponent is fairly straight forward and doesn't get out of line.

I would bet/call in most instances and possibly lay it down to a raise with a good read. There's really nothing he raises the river with that you beat, so a laydown makes sense, but then again this is a low limit game so when in doubt, you should probably call just in case.


That's the thing. I'm not 94% certain that a river raise means I'm beat. Maybe 90% of the time it does, but that still means I have to usually pay off.


Well it really depends on how confident you are in your reads and if you're willing to trust them. Playing good poker sometimes means going against the mathematically correct play, when you trust your instincts you can make laydowns like this once in a while, probably shouldn't happen often though.

On the other hand if your not sure and would like to showdown the hand, I don't mind the check/call on the end either.


I had just sat down at the table. My only reads were my datamined pt reads. His stats were 45/15/1.5 after 1200 hands.

I use these stats to guide my play. I don't trust them enough to make a read-based river fold. :-)
pokerplayer24
Bet folding this river in a huge pot would be an awful play imo.

I think check calling makes the most sense here as the only feasible hands we're ahead of are KK and AK and its unlikely AK gets played this way on the flop.
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