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screech
Same villian as in luckbox mcgee hand. He's 21/14/2.47. I still haven't figured out he's actually very good, and am still treating him as a LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J:club:, J:diamond:. MP3 posts a blind of $5.
2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 3:club:, 5:spade:, K:spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (10 BB) A:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11 BB

I really don't know what to think.
TheCinciKid
Without the J icon_suit_spade.gif , I'm tempted to think that bet/folding the flop might be correct. As it played out, I'm not even sure I like calling the 3-bet, but maybe for metagame purposes.
CoranMoran
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Without the J , I'm tempted to think that bet/folding the flop might be correct.


Bet/folding is overused.
It allows you to get out-played too often, thus losing the entire pot.
Villain capped preflop.
So he should be raising this flop with anything.

Your check-raise on the flop eliminates UTG2.
And once you check-raise, you have to call the 3bet.

But could a worse card have hit the turn?
You played it as I would have.


--cnm
Actuary
nh.

start running good.
screech
QUOTE (Actuary)
nh.

start running good.


I'm not running bad, just not running good.

I think things will change after this post. Thanks. :wink:
mrdannyg
QUOTE (CoranMoran)
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Without the J , I'm tempted to think that bet/folding the flop might be correct.


Bet/folding is overused.
It allows you to get out-played too often, thus losing the entire pot.
Villain capped preflop.
So he should be raising this flop with anything.

Your check-raise on the flop eliminates UTG2.
And once you check-raise, you have to call the 3bet.

But could a worse card have hit the turn?
You played it as I would have.


--cnm


in a hand with pre-flop raises, i think you can almost never bet/fold the flop. i think bet/folding is a useful tool, but mostly on rivers and to a lesser extent on turns. bet/folding the flop, especially when there's been pre-flop raising is usually a mistake since many people auto-bet/raise UI.

with that turn card, i think you gotta check/fold. with any other turn card, it's a tough decision whether to call down, bet/fold, etc, but with that one you gotta dump 'er. you can consider bet/folding that turn, but only against a notably weak opponent.
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