80/160 player is new but seems OK.

hero gets delt K ,5 in the CO.
Its folded to hero and he raises. Only the BB calls.

Flop is 5 ,T ,T (4.5sb)
BB checks, hero bets, BB calls.

Turn is the A (3.25BB)
BB checks, hero checks.

River is the 7
BB bets, hero calls.

any suggestions?

are you asking if the river call is worth it?
doubtful, but depends on the opponent and to avoid being results oriented, I'd probably have called as well.

The whole hand.

I think PF, flop and turn are pretty clearly correct.
Only thing you could even consider is that betting the turn could make him fold 6-6 or something similar. On the other hand, if he's got an ace, the line you played saves the most.
I'd go with the above line.

I think once you check the turn you are commiting yourself to a showdown.

I think a bet/fold is probably the best play on the turn, given how vulnerable your hand is.

Thats what I thought right after the hand. Why would I fear the A when I raised preflop? Im suppose to have AK everytime, right? Plus any two cards he has probably have a ton of outs if he's not already ahead.

But what would he check/call with on that flop?

Good question.

Tx, Ax, overcards, maybe something like 33.

He could be peeling here with some hands you beat, just testing to see if you will fire again on this innocent looking board.

He could also be peeling with the intentions of stealing the pot from you on the turn. Or he may be slowplaying a monster.

Do you think this guy is capable of semi-bluffing when the ace hits (any overcards that don't contain an ace now have gutshot)? Or do you think he repects your play enough that he will view the ace as a scare card (assuming he doesn't have much) because he doesn't want to tangle with you?

Oh yeah, he's new.

Start chatting with him so he won't be so quick to make plays at you. :-)

I think bet/fold the turn might be better than checking behind on the turn and calling the river. But simply giving up UI after he calls the flop might be better yet.

Im glad you brought this up because I didnt want to. I wouldnt mind checking behind on the turn and then folding to the river bet. The pot is pretty small.

Im bet/folding turn. I like giving up on hand after flop UI better than calling river bet.

I would say bet/folding the turn makes sense but what hands are we folding that we don't have beat?

The A turn sucks because our K kicker no long plays but i think i'm calling this river.

Only way we're getting value here is by getting our opponent to bluff at the river so I really dont mind the turn check.



Someone has to explain how bet folding the turn is better then checking the turn and calling any river bet.

On the turn the only hands that are calling are 5x with which we split and Ax or 10x which we are losing to.

Let the guy bluff at the river instead as your hand has some showdown value.

Villian may be peeling on this innocent flop to try and get you to check the turn. If this is the case, checking the turn is a disaster for our very vulnerable hand. I think this is the main difference between this hand and the other one wrto posted. In this hand, there are too many cards that can hurt us if we check the turn.

I really doubt 5x is just calling this turn. For one, there aren't too many hands containing a 5 that villian will defend with. Secondly, I think a 5 will usually c/r or bet this flop.

Anyway, I like MNG's idea of just checking the turn and folding this river. Small pot, unknown seemingly good player, not a great chance that he calls the flop with the intention of stealing later.

How do you guys play it if a 2 hits the turn?

this hand is super-marginal. my thoughts:

check the turn if he seems "good" (able to bluff, semi-bluff, checkraise), bet/fold it otherwise.

now, if he's good, you have to ask yourself if it's worth even calling a river bet.

imo, it isn't. check it out, he's either peeling with a made hand that he intends to show down (basically all of which beat your hand), or he's peeling the flop w/ intent to steal on the turn.

BUT, most people in my experience, simply BET the turn when they intend to steal. checkraising gets expensive and is sometimes less reliable than a bet, because your opponent has already invested money in on that street.

so, the peel-CHECK line might actually mean a 10 or A, implying you should give up once he peel-CHECKs, as this makes the BB trying to steal LESS likely.

i'm a fan of just c/f the river if he's good.

but again, if he seems even slightly fishy, i would b/f the turn.

aseem

Fold equity. Your pair of 5's stands a good chance of being outdrawn by overs which you could scare off with a bet (depending on the player, obviously) if you are ahead after the flop+turn. For all we know, villian could be defending with garbage or middle cards, and peeling the flop to "keep you honest". Maybe he's drawing with six live outs on the turn, and a bet will make him go away (or draw unprofitably). Bet/fold might push you off the best hand when villian is bluffing with the CR, but really, a pair of 5's is a pretty weak made hand and is often going to lose at showdown anyway. If you plan to call a river bet, bet/folding the turn costs the same amount and gives you two ways to win.

That said, I probably check -> fold. Small pot. A on the turn.



I don't think this necessarily holds true in a blind steal situation (depending on the player, again).

I think its so much a matter of the player then. I'd happily let someone draw with 6 live outs if hes betting any river.

Considering that he's a new player and you have no read on him, I like the line you took. This line will save you the most bets and pick off bluffs otherwise. You can also gain some information seeing his hand as well, so that's not such a bad thing either.

With the river play though, he's either got a 10, Ace or on a bluff, so it depends on your read as to what you do in this situation. An alternative way to play it would have been to bet the turn, which probably makes your river play a little bit easier if you get called on the turn and you'd fold to a turn raise, but going with your line you gain some information from your opponent, which is always nice.

Against a typical player that is fairly straight forward, I'd fold the river. Most players would not be betting this river without an Ace or 10.

Out of the three plays talked about I really think bet/folding the turn is the worst one.

Just giving up, checking behind on the turn and folding to a river bet, or checking behind on the turn and calling a river bet seem to be much better options.