zimmer4141
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 1:24 PM
OK, as some of you know, especially those who read my blog, I have been playing 5/10 since around August. Because I play a lot of MTTs and Sngs, I only have logged a little under 9,000 hands.
However, I am beating it at 4.6BB/100 through that span. I know this is not sustainable over a long term, but it obviously means I am beating the game consistently. My original plan was to move up to 10/20 after about 20k hands, but do you think I can move up already?
I have enough of a bankroll due to MTT success, just not sure when to move up.
TheCinciKid
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 1:34 PM
I think the generally accepted rule of thumb is something like 20-25k hands, though obviously you're beating the game well enough to move up. One thing you might look into is working on some shorthanded play, I believe from reading your blog that you're playing full ring. So, it might be good to learn shorthanded, which I've heard is way more profitable. Just some food for thought.
DrZebra
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 2:46 PM
You should definitely think about tracking your rate in some 10/20 play. If' it's less than 2.3BB/100 (which is still crushing the game) then why bother moving up?
ronnieburger
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 8:32 PM
isnt a general rule if you have to ask then dont?
PAYforUSC
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 8:57 PM
you have the green light.....if you run extremely bad you can always drop back down. go 4 it Zimm.
AlanBostick
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 9:07 PM
The best take I've ever read on the "When to Move Up" question was
posted to rec.gambling.poker in 1997 by "Dragon" Ramsey:
QUOTE
The question raised by the original poster is a staple of this newsgroup so let me add a new slant and say perhaps the answer should be never. Or to put it another way the question is meaningless...
Consider our rookie arriving fresh scrubbed in his first poker room; money in one pocket, a well thumbed copy of Lee Jones in his other.
He considers all the games available in the room and selects, naturally, one at the lowest level. He may win or lose the first few times. But with experience, and study he gradually improves.
He also starts to get to know the regulars. He begins to know who the winners and losers are. He also gets some experience against players who normally play at higher levels but, for whatever reason, are passing time in his game.
One day he comes to the poker room, feeling good, and with a healthy backroll. This time he sees a game at the next higher level. In it are a few players he's not seen before; a few who are regulars but he has played against in the lower game and doesn't fear; a few who only play at the higher level but he knows are regular losers; and perhaps just 1 or 2 of the tougher players who he rightly respects.
So he gives that game a try. The weaker players in the game protect his ev and he gives respect where due, watching the table experts and learning from what they do and how they play.
The next few times he plays there may be no game at that level he feels comfortable with. So he plays at his normal level. But from time to time the right games present themselves and he takes the opportunities as they arrive. He never actually moves to a higher level. He continues to play at tables where he feels he has the advantage. But gradually he finds that his normal game is at the higher level. Sometimes he will play in the lower game; sometimes he will spot a game
at an even higher level which he knows he can beat.
So, my long-winded point is, that a player should never conciously move up from one level to another. Instead he should consider all the available games and select the one which offers the best advantage. If a player is working hard at the game then gradually this 'best' game will be at increasingly higher levels - but every time he plays he concentrates on game selection, *NOT* level selection.
akishore
Tuesday, November 22nd, 2005, 5:03 AM
i strongly agree with ramsey.
to this day, i can't tell you what my "normal" game is.
sometimes, there are juicy 2/4 games that i can't pass up (70%, 80% to flops, huge pots), and sometimes, there are juicy 5/10 games that i can't pass up. otherwise, i'll just play 3/6 as my "normal" game, but i don't play 3/6 probably close to 50% of the time.
aseem
PokerKnight55
Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005, 12:51 AM
You seem comfrotable with your 5/10 game, so a move up is not a bad idea. A little trial and error maybe.
The rule for myself is I don't move up in limits until i have enough br solely from the game i'm playing at. I don't include Sit-n-gos or mtt wins.
Just makes me more confident in my game and positive i'm ready to move up.
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