plo hand
Wed, Nov 16th, 2005 1:39

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hey guys just wanted to see your thoughts on how i played a particular hand. i'm relatively new to the game and have logged less than 50 hours of play time so still a ton to learn. anyhow. here's how it went down. 25/50cent PLO mid position with

A-A-K-5 double suited raised pot after 2 limpers and got one caller in late position.

FLOP: 4-4-Q suits unimportant
i lead out $5 and he raises to $20 and i call

TURN: A
check check

River is Blank
i lead out $20 to induce a call and he raises all in for another $30 and i call immediately and scooped the pot.

turns out he had QQ for a full house on the flop.

thanks

Seems pretty standard to me, however I would probably fold after the reraise, because it seems like he definitely has the boat, or at least a 4. This seems to be $50 PLO, and assuming this isn't very different from the $25 PLO I play from time to time, people will call preflop raises with all sorts of crap. Any pocket pair is like gold to most donkeys, and the other two cards are unimportant, so he could have a 4, or more likely QQ.

It seems like you are drawing to two outs after the flop and got lucky. I think I would have folded to the reraise. It seems he is telling you he holds the best hand.

Nice catch though.

Zach

thanks

Just keep in mind, I'm not nearly an expert, these are just things I've noticed while playing.

Zach

no sweat. i'm new to the game and don't mind blowing a few buy ins to see what works and what doesn't for me before i get any books. definately a donkey call when you look back lots to learn, but till then i still have hold 'em :-) thanks again

Interesting hand. I am going to comment a little differently, so right or wrong, we can look at this hand differently.

Keep in mind that raising AAxx double suited preflop does not raise the pot a lot and notifies your opponent that you have a "good hand", unless you do it often enough that they discount the fact you are doing it because you have a good hand.

Had you just limped in with the sheep, you could lead out on the flop for less, gotten raised by the player with the boat, and called the raise for less.

When the A hit the turn, you could bet out and your opponent could not unreasonably put you on a worse boat. You could have A4, AQ, or 4Q, and - of course - AA or 44, but you would have raised with AA, right?

Your preflop raise sort of telegraphs you might have AA so a check on the turn is mandatory, IMHO.

By limping in preflop, you could bet the flop as you did, get raised, call the flop raise, then bet the turn, faced a big reraise on the turn bet, called it, then hit him again on the river.

The pot would have been too big to fold unless he was absolutely convinced you had the AA (or the quads) all along.

Just another angle for you and I hope you find it interesting.

Raise PF like you did, fold to the raise on the flop

Great post! i would have never even considered thinking that deep in the analysis of the hand. i know i am new to the game and have a TON to learn. looks like a have a few books to pick up over the weekend.

Don't raise with AAXX preflop unless you are willing to raise with other hands such as QJT9 . Most online opponents will assume you have AAxx. That being said the fact that he/she raised you a significant amount on the flop indicates your hand is no good. Your opponent puts you on AAxx and is raising you on a board with no draw. Unless you somehow put him/her on a bluff this is an easy fold with only 2 outs. Assuming your opponent has QQxx, you know 9 cards of 52. You are a 41 to 2 against improving on the turn. There is nowhere near enough implied odds to justify trying for a 2 outer.