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No_Neck
***** Hand History for Game 3014747175 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $5 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17299216 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, November 10, 16:41:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 67511 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 7: Natethegreek ( $745 )
Seat 1: BAINGMC ( $1210 )
Seat 9: Killer42O ( $425 )
Seat 5: coop_14 ( $570 )
Seat 10: Lonely_Moose ( $745 )
Seat 6: atlasmarket ( $1140 )
Seat 3: HeavenlyKiss ( $3165 )
Trny:17299216 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Natethegreek [ Qs As ]
Lonely_Moose calls [30].
BAINGMC folds.
HeavenlyKiss folds.
coop_14 calls [30].
atlasmarket calls [30].
Natethegreek calls [15].
Killer42O checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 9s, 2d ]
Natethegreek checks.
Killer42O checks.
Lonely_Moose bets [30].
coop_14 raises [60].
atlasmarket folds.
Natethegreek calls [60].
Killer42O calls [60].
Lonely_Moose calls [30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Natethegreek bets [175].
Killer42O calls [175].
Lonely_Moose folds.
coop_14 is all-In [480]
Natethegreek is all-In [480]
Killer42O is all-In [160]
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
loogie
Absolutely not.

You have a short stack, TPTK, and a draw to the nuts. You call here everytime.
No_Neck
I don't think I was short stacked, probably could have gotten away, my thought is that with TP/TK my hand is probably good and if a spade hits I know I am good.

I was more thinking that if I win I have a decent stack and can use it to get into the money, if not I am only 6 bucks away from being back in the action.

:-)
zimmer4141
I might raise pf, but other than that, nh.
copernicus
QUOTE (Zimmer4141)
I might raise pf, but other than that, nh.


It wouldnt have worked as well in this case, but with all of those limpers, an all-in pre-flop has a lot of appeal here.
No_Neck
yeah I didn't raise preflop because I would have been out of position and it would have cost me a huge chunk of my stack to raise anything reasonable.

I don't think I want to go all in preflop because I think I can outplay people on the flop, so why push all in?
copernicus
QUOTE (No_Neck)
yeah I didn't raise preflop because I would have been out of position and it would have cost me a huge chunk of my stack to raise anything reasonable.

I don't think I want to go all in preflop because I think I can outplay people on the flop, so why push all in?


Because it takes down the pot the vast majority of the time and when it doesnt youve eliminated the problem of being OOP.
zimmer4141
Wait, how is a raise a huge chunk of your stack? You still have around 25BBs left, and I don't know why a raise is a huge piece of your stack. If I had AQs in that spot, I'd probably raise to 120 or so.
No_Neck
you are right for some reason I thought I have 445.
Davin
QUOTE (Zimmer4141)
Wait, how is a raise a huge chunk of your stack? You still have around 25BBs left, and I don't know why a raise is a huge piece of your stack. If I had AQs in that spot, I'd probably raise to 120 or so.


raising is a good idea

but if you raise, you're raising w/ the intention of either taking the pot down now or driving out all opponents except the ones w/ good hands as well.

a raise to 120 is way too small, since your first limper is getting about 1:2.5 odds to call. if he does call, your subsequent opponents will be getting even greater odds to call. the last thing you want to do is build a large multi-way pot oop w/ a hand like aqs

raise to 250 minimum. this way, only premium hands will be able to call, and since everyone limped pf, i say you'll be taking this hand down here the vast majority of the time.
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