kcb
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:14 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)
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BB ($2.30)
UTG ($3.90)
Hero ($9.45)
CO ($2.90)
Button ($7.25)
SB ($7.95)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A:diamond:, Q:club:.
1 fold.
Flop: ($0.90) 7:diamond:, T:spade:, K:diamond:
(2 players)
SB bets $0.5, SB calls $0.75.
Turn: ($3.40) Q:diamond:
(2 players)
SB bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.
River: ($6.40) Q:heart:
(2 players)
SB bets $4.8 (All-In), Hero calls $4.80.
Final Pot: $16
kcb
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:16 PM
My read is maniac.
I didn't put him on kings, because I've seen him reraise with K/5 before.. So his hand range for raising is Ace/anything or King/anything..
Actuary
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:20 PM
I really like it.
but I'm not that good at NL.
GWCGWC
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:38 PM
QUOTE (Actuary)
I really like it.
but I'm not that good at NL.
Do you like the aggression or the suckout?
OP,
Preflop is good.
Flop is good. You were trying to take control of the hand.
Turn. Is good, he only bet 1/2 the pot and you have to think your outs are any q or j, and obviously any diamond that doesn't pair the board.
River is good.
i hope the villian doesn't have (QJd.) <------edit: i ment J10d
nh
kcb
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:55 PM
Villain had J/4 diamonds.
Makes me feel better to at least know that I played it right.
pokerplayer24
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 4:59 PM
Don't raise flops when you are at best drawing to 10 outs vs a maniac.
I'm folding the river. This is a pretty obvious flush at this level.
WonderfulSplash
Tuesday, November 1st, 2005, 6:38 PM
QUOTE (pokerplayer24)
Don't raise flops when you are at best drawing to 10 outs vs a maniac.
I'm folding the river. This is a pretty obvious flush at this level.
Against a manic Im calling here all day.
TJ_Eckleburg
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005, 6:58 AM
I think you did most everything correct here, with the nitpicky exception that you need to raise more on the flop. The important thing is if you were THINKING correctly on each street. I hate long posts, but there's no other way to explain this stuff.
Preflop: 4x raise. Perfect open raise here.
Flop: Get to learn pot math real quick if you're going to play no limit. The bet is .50 to you, and there's .90 in the pot. When you raise the pot, the first .50 of it goes to the call, so that makes (.90 + .50 + .50) for a raise of 1.90. Your total raise, then, would be to 2.40.
The quickest way to do this real time is to count the bets and the calls, add one more for you, and add the pot. That's the total amount you're raising up to.
Preflop, just raise 3-4 times the big blind, plus one more big blind for each limper in front of you. Therefore, if there were hypothetically 2 limpers and the blinds to you and you had AA, your raise is 5-6x the big blind.
Raising to 1.25 doesn't accomplish anything. It's not big enough to make him fold anything but a naked bluff, and you're accidentally pricing him in to call with almost any two cards. You also make the pot bigger on future streets, and give him BETTER odds to chase if he's chasing.
We are raising this flop for a few reasons: it's heads up (i.e., it's more okay to go crazy aggressive), we have a draw (a gutshot, an overcard, and a runner runner flush draw), and he could possibly fold since we showed aggression on an earlier betting round (this is called "fold equity").
We are FOLDING if this pot is 4 way and it's bet-call to us. Our draw isn't that good and we can't as reliably make people fold.
Turn: Alarm bells need to be going off, because he called the flop raise, and STILL led the turn when a scare card (3rd diamond) hit. However, we have the Ad... and that's the ONLY reason we're calling here. Notice how HIS weak bet prices US in to call more on the turn! This is why pot math is important, and also why bad players lose money. He isn't protecting his hand on the turn.
River: Meh. We improved enough to beat almost everything but a flush (which is sadly his most likely holding) but it's still worth the call on the end because he's not very deep. If he moves in for more money it's not worth keeping him honest... because we put him on a flush on the turn.
TJ_Eckleburg
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005, 7:03 AM
QUOTE (Actuary)
I really like it.
but I'm not that good at NL.
Just be careful with liking it too much. Heads up it's good, but semibluffing larger fields will get you in trouble in no limit.
Remember, they don't just "min raise" a.k.a. 3-bet if they're way ahead and don't want you calling. They bet, we raise, they say "fu
ck you!" and move all in.
And we HAVE to fold for an all in AFTER we've raised, with our tail between our legs.
Don't be eager to semibluff maniacs in no limit.
Actuary
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005, 7:08 AM
funniest thing..
I read it today thinking it was a new post and thought:
"Hmm why such a small flop raise"
funny what sleep will do.
Captain_Walt
Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005, 7:37 AM
TJ covered it really well.
FLOP: I would bump it up to $2 representing the KING and getting him off his flush draw, your raise isn't enough to get him off any decent drawing hand.
Turn: Call is fine due to the fact you have the nut flush draw.
Flop: Q, makes it all that more tempting to call doesn't it? I most likely call it
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