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benhoug
I was playing PLO w/ both blinds of .50. I had about $100 in front of me and had the table covered. I think everyone else involved had between $40 and $75.

I was on the button and 4 players had limped. I had K icon_suit_heart.gif 6 icon_suit_heart.gif K icon_suit_club.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif, not exactly a monster, but I was in position so I potted it. Everyone called.

The flop was gin for my hand 458 rainbow. I had flopped the nuts.

EP pots it and gets called in 2 spots. What's my play here? Do I call to see if the turn hurts me, or do I re-pot it? There was no flush possible, but undoubtedly someone has flopped a set. What's the best play? What's the safest play? I find that I struggle when I flop a straight in PLO. Any thoughts???
spt24
your hand is super vunerable here. There are only 2 cards that you will really like on the turn - either King. But there are many cards that are nuetral that could come. I just call. If a 2,3, 9-A comes, I pot on the turn. Just remember that the 9 and T open a lot more straight possibilities for the river and if there is a second suit on the turn then a flush is likely to stay around.

Potting this on the flop isn't what I like to do because you might be getting free-rolled and with two cards to come other draws still have time to catch up.
RawTurkey
This is the ideal time for a slowplay. Not because your hand is a monster but because being aggressive will eliminate your chance for profit. Just call here and again on the turn. Strongly consider folding if the board pairs and maybe if a higher straight becomes possible. If you still have the nuts on the river, put the rest of your money in.
JacKingOff_suit
I would shove in if it's a rainbow flop and there are 3 villains.

Do the math, if everyone moves in on the flop, you are getting about ~ 1:4 for your money. Assuming someone is holding two pairs or set, what's the chance of improving to a boat, especially if more than one players are holding set or two pairs? It's a good investment.

If it has two suited cards, I would wait for a safe card on the turn.

If afraid of high variance, play plo8 instead.
dingas
Judging by the action it's quite likely that someone has the same straight. If you're up against one player with the same straight and a 9 (redraw to a higher straight) and one player with a set, your equity in the pot is only about 25%. Now this is about the worst case scenario for your hand, so in most cases you'll be in a bit better shape, but you can see that pushing all in here is only very slightly profitable, at best.

Calling is probably better because you fold a bad turn, and in some cases, the guy with top set will fold to a turn bet when he would have beat you when the board pairs on the river. Or if someone else has the straight, all the money is going in on the turn anyway, because the set will have odds to call 3-ways, but you get the money in in a more favourable situation for you.
benhoug
First off, let me start by saying it's been a while since I played PLO. It's definitely my favorite game, but probably not the game I'm best at.

To re-cap I flopped the nut straight w/ no re-draws. 1P pots it, and gets called in 2 places, so I decide to re-pot it. Everyone called, the turn was a blank, and the rest of the money got in there. The river was a pretty scary card for me, another 6, so if someone held 79 I was beat, but thankfully nobody did, and my flopped straight held up.

When all the dust settled there was something like $230 or $240 in the pot, and I was thrilled. It's not the biggest pot I've ever scooped, but it was quite nice.

Thanks for your responses. This time my hand held up, but I've clearly got some more things to consider next time I'm in this situation.
dingas
What did everyone else have to call your raise on the flop?
kaisersoze12
QUOTE (benhoug)
First off, let me start by saying it's been a while since I played PLO. It's definitely my favorite game, but probably not the game I'm best at.

To re-cap I flopped the nut straight w/ no re-draws. 1P pots it, and gets called in 2 places, so I decide to re-pot it. Everyone called, the turn was a blank, and the rest of the money got in there. The river was a pretty scary card for me, another 6, so if someone held 79 I was beat, but thankfully nobody did, and my flopped straight held up.

When all the dust settled there was something like $230 or $240 in the pot, and I was thrilled. It's not the biggest pot I've ever scooped, but it was quite nice.

Thanks for your responses. This time my hand held up, but I've clearly got some more things to consider next time I'm in this situation.


I doubt the 6 is all that scary for your hand. Any 7-9 isn't calling a pot with only a gutshot unless they have something else working as well. Then the naked 79 also has to call an all-in. Tough to do without 7988, 7955. I even think 79 + over pair is getting out of the way, but that is also unlikely with you being the only pre-flop potter.
benhoug
QUOTE (dingas)
What did everyone else have to call your raise on the flop?

honestly it all happened so fast I didn't have time to see what there hands were.

I'm assuming some combo of Set/2 pair/overpair, but I don't really know.
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