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Actuary
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Preflop: Actuary is SB with A:spade:, K:spade:.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 2:spade:, T:club:, A:heart: (7 players)
Actuary bets, Actuary calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) Q:spade: (3 players)
Actuary checks, UTG bets, Actuary calls, UTG folds.

River: (16.50 BB) 4:club: (2 players)
Actuary checks, Button bets, Actuary calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB
TheCinciKid
It's late and I'm tired, so this may not be complete...but, I think I'm tempted to fold somewhere in here. Based on the action I wouldn't be surprised to find myself up against a set of Tens, AT or AQ.

On the flop, I'm not a big fan of calling two here, but getting 10-1 with TPTK and a backdoor flush draw I might be tempted to peel...I think you could potentially justify folding though, especially since you're not closing the action and could very easily get sucked in for another bet.

Turn, you've picked up a flush draw and it's not out of the question that TPTK is good, though highly unlikely, still...you're getting correct odds to draw to the flush so the call is ok...however, once again we're not closing the action and could end up donating 2 more bets to the pot. UTG's fold was a really good result for us.

River, you've taken it this far and it's a huge pot. I would probably make the crying check/call here also, though I would be expecting to lose to AQ, AT or TT.
Davin
QUOTE (TheCinciKid)
It's late and I'm tired, so this may not be complete...but, I think I'm tempted to fold somewhere in here. Based on the action I wouldn't be surprised to find myself up against a set of Tens, AT or AQ.

On the flop, I'm not a big fan of calling two here, but getting 10-1 with TPTK and a backdoor flush draw I might be tempted to peel...I think you could potentially justify folding though, especially since you're not closing the action and could very easily get sucked in for another bet.

Turn, you've picked up a flush draw and it's not out of the question that TPTK is good, though highly unlikely, still...you're getting correct odds to draw to the flush so the call is ok...however, once again we're not closing the action and could end up donating 2 more bets to the pot. UTG's fold was a really good result for us.

River, you've taken it this far and it's a huge pot. I would probably make the crying check/call here also, though I would be expecting to lose to AQ, AT or TT.


agreed

it just sucks that you turned your flush draw and probably ended up paying 3 more bb than if that spade hadn't hit

did button have 2-2 by any chance?
RainDogz
only mistake made is not 3-betting the turn..
Davin
QUOTE (RainDogz)
only mistake made is not 3-betting the turn..


why?

button has shown absolutely no weakness this hand yet. you'll most likely need to hit a spade or maybe a king in order to win the pot. you wont make any hands better than yours fold and w/ all this action, it doesnt seem like tptk is good

so why put in more money as an underdog?
screech
QUOTE (RainDogz)
only mistake made is not 3-betting the turn..


Terrible advice.
We have to improve to win. We probably have 18 outs to win. That makes us an underdog HU. We are OOP, so we can't take the fre showdown.

The most likely hand we're up agianst here is AT or some maybe A2/T2.

We can't fold the flop.

We can't fold the turn.

We can't fold the river because button may play AJ this way.
Sysvr4
Good hand, Actuary. Question tho... what do you do if the turn isn't a spade and it's two-cold to you here?

Jeff
TJ_Eckleburg
I thought you played it right... because playing it any differently would mean folding weakly or spewing as a dog.

Nh.
screech
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
Good hand, Actuary.  Question tho... what do you do if the turn isn't a spade and it's two-cold to you here?

Jeff


If it's still a queen he should call call call.
Sysvr4
QUOTE (screech)
If it's still a queen he should call call call.


True. A better question is what if it's not a queen and not a spade?

Jeff
TJ_Eckleburg
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
QUOTE (screech)


If it's still a queen he should call call call.


True. A better question is what if it's not a queen and not a spade?

Jeff


Then it becomes a question of what do we put our opponents on, and is one pair good enough of the time?

I'm thinking no.... for the action.
screech
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
QUOTE (screech)


If it's still a queen he should call call call.


True. A better question is what if it's not a queen and not a spade?

Jeff


If villian would not play anything less than 2 pair this way, we have a fold.

If he would occassionally play a weaker ace this way, we still have a fold, but it's closer.
Actuary
thanks guys.

I meeant to include reads.


Button TAG: 14/8/3.2 about 300 hands..very solid
UTG, fishy.

While, playing, I actually missed the Gut Shot..but still had enough to call.

I probably fold a non-spade non-Q under circumstances.
Aware Button, who I would guess, is not going crazy with something I beat..or have more than 3 outds against (w/o FD/SD)

Screech: you are always dead on. Button: AT.

cool thing..next hand I made 16 BB with a set turned boat on 4 flush board. So...you win some lose some.
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