Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: econ_tim is Button with Q:club:, K:club:.
2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6:diamond:, T:heart:, J:spade: (2 players)
CO checks, econ_tim bets, CO calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) J:diamond: (2 players)
CO checks, econ_tim bets, CO calls.

River: (8.75 BB) J:club: (2 players)
CO checks, econ_tim checks.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

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aargh

Tim,

you don't beat anything he could possibly have on the river.

Given the way this hand played out, I think villian either has AK/AQ, a mid pp, or maybe A6.

If he's called all the way with a pair, he's not going anywhere.

He'll have AK/AQ roughly half the time based on card combinations.

What you have to decide is how likely he is to play AK/AQ this way, and how likely he is to fold these hands.

I think he'll fold an unpaired ace (and occasionally a weak pair) often enough to make betting profitable.

I'm checking the turn, too. You have very little fold equity on someone who c/r'ed the flop. If he just called the flop, I'll fire anouther shell on the turn.

Jeff

Just out of curiosity...

Why are we 3-betting the flop over a check/raise?

Do 8 + 6 outs mean we have equity over one pair, and what are Villain's checkraising hands heads up?

This is important.

If he won't c/r without top or middle pair, the turn bet is a spew.

I like it only to get a free card on the turn. Tim evidently hates free stuff tho

Jeff

If I can get him to fold A-high 1 out of 8 times, it's worth betting the river.

Tim,

Reread my post. I said you should probably bet because of the chance you are up agianst A high. Of course this depends on your opponent, and how often he'd play AK/AQ this way, and how often he'd call on the river with these hands UI.

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I still think the flop 3-bet isn't particularly great.

It smells a little like a spew to me.

If you checked through the turn for free, that's different... but I ask again, why are you 3-betting the flop?

Why does villain check/raise the flop?

Does he do it with a good hand or a bad hand?

If villain has some marginal hand that beats me like 88 or Ax, I want him to fold it.

Either way, do you read that you're ahead on the turn?

I think you should check the turn to see if you can improve, and if not, fold the river to a bet.

With that board any pp is calling you. And I think A high has to call you here as well. Can you fold A high 1 in 8... most likely. But how often is he going to have A high here. AK is capping this preflop same with AQ. I just don't see someone folding A high with a JJJxx board here.