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Gallo
This is in 2/4 limit 6 person shorthanded.
I figured players would be a little bit tighter, guess not, they're just as loose as they are on a .25/.50 table.
How the heck do you play against ultra loose players? Do you stop raising preflop with premium hands AA,KK, AK, AQ, and so forth. should I just call preflop knowing that they're going to call the raise anyway? When I raise with like AK or AQ I usually follow up with a continuation bet on the flop, should I keep betting or just stop on the turn if I miss? I hate checking sometimes because it'll show I'm weak and beat and this might lead them to lead out and bet instead and I wind up just folding. As far as players chasing runner runner, I can deal with that, it happens, and in long run they lose out for chasing, but the raising preflop, should I stop? I hate allowing players to limp in with whatever kind of cards when I hold a strong hand. Should I only raise with pocket pairs and limp with everything else?
Sure this is probably out of frustration, but seriously any advice would help.
Thanx.
akishore
lol.

read "small stakes hold 'em" by ed miller.

no advice you get on this or any other forum will solve such a general problem better than that book will.

aseem
Gallo
How about a little hint? :?
Actuary
QUOTE (Gallo)
How about a little hint? :?


read "Getting Started in Holdem" first, imo... but "SSHE" is the nuts.


Aseems laughter comes from the fact that he hears what you said, all the time. It is frustrating to have no fold-equity against players. They chase and seem to catch some stupid two pair. Or your AK never wins unimproved (UI) becuase 73 catches a 3 on the flop and calls down.....

The point is you want to paly against bad players. You want to raise your strong hands agaisnt bad players. When you have such an edge, say 6 handed preflop

You: AQ off
Donk1: T5 soooted
Donk2: A5 off
Donk:3: Q8 off
Ok Player 1: 44
Ok Player 2: AA-22 / AK-T / 78 + soooted etc...

You are gonig to win this more than 1/6 times. So raising brings more money into a pot that you are in better pos to win than most. You put in 1/6 of the money but win 1/4 of the time... etc. Get used to loisng more pots but winning bigger ones. Don't take hopeless hands too far in hopes Fish will fold.

If you are on a skilled player table then the hands that call your raises are generally stronger than the hands you raise with... See? But on these tables, thats not the case.


thats all I got. I'm new too.

Read this forum.
Post HANDS!
Listen to advice.

ps. I think advice is getting better again. Some bad advisers aren't posting as much Did I just say that? :oops:
TJ_Eckleburg
In a nutshell...

You still need to raise good hands. Your problem, whether you want to admit it or not, is poorer post-flop play than you think.

In limit decisions are made based on money and pricing other people to call with bad odds. If the pot is huge on the flop and you go crazy with AA as an overpair, you're pricing in all kinds of gutshots and huckle draws to call you.

Definitely read Small Stakes Hold'em.
Gallo
QUOTE (TJ_Eckleburg)
In a nutshell...

You still need to raise good hands. Your problem, whether you want to admit it or not, is poorer post-flop play than you think.

In limit decisions are made based on money and pricing other people to call with bad odds. If the pot is huge on the flop and you go crazy with AA as an overpair, you're pricing in all kinds of gutshots and huckle draws to call you.

Definitely read Small Stakes Hold'em.

Yeah, I think I know what you mean there. I guess I'm gonna purchase the SSHE.
And thanx Aseem and Actuary.
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