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timwakefield
I don't know why the other threads were locked, but here's an alcs thread. Kowboy, good point about the George Brett game. I didn't realize they actually replayed that game. Last night's call wasn't as immediately important to the outcome of the game though...blown call on homerun vs blown call on (essentially) a stolen base. Good point though.
Oziumrules
The admin's must not like baseball.
KowboyKoop
QUOTE (timwakefield)
I don't know why the other threads were locked, but here's an alcs thread. Kowboy, good point about the George Brett game. I didn't realize they actually replayed that game. Last night's call wasn't as immediately important to the outcome of the game though...blown call on homerun vs blown call on (essentially) a stolen base. Good point though.



I know they aren't the same situations. I know that MLB PROBABLY wouldn't replay the game, but I just meant that if i were Soscsia, I would give it a shot .Maybe there is like, a 10 percent chance or something, I mean, it is against the rules to call a batter out and then say he is safe. But whatever, it is over. One of the all-time bad umpiring moments ever, but it is past.


three more posts until this is locked????
custom36
Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.
KowboyKoop
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Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.



yeah, I think that is what lots of people said last year, and then the Cardinals stood around and fondled themselves while the BoSox ripped them new assholes.
custom36
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QUOTE (Custom36)
Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.



yeah, I think that is what lots of people said last year, and then the Cardinals stood around and fondled themselves while the BoSox ripped them new assholes.


You do realize that I don't care about baseball, right?

And the loss is still the Angels' fault.
KowboyKoop
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QUOTE (KowboyKoop)
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Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.



yeah, I think that is what lots of people said last year, and then the Cardinals stood around and fondled themselves while the BoSox ripped them new assholes.


You do realize that I don't care about baseball, right?

And the loss is still the Angels' fault.



You do realize that it doesn't matter to me what you care about, I am still going to respond if I want to respond, right??
custom36
QUOTE (KowboyKoop)
QUOTE (Custom36)
QUOTE (KowboyKoop)
QUOTE (Custom36)
Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.



yeah, I think that is what lots of people said last year, and then the Cardinals stood around and fondled themselves while the BoSox ripped them new assholes.


You do realize that I don't care about baseball, right?

And the loss is still the Angels' fault.



You do realize that it doesn't matter to me what you care about, I am still going to respond if I want to respond, right??


How old are you? 5?
KowboyKoop
QUOTE (Custom36)
QUOTE (KowboyKoop)
QUOTE (Custom36)
QUOTE (KowboyKoop)
QUOTE (Custom36)
Does it really matter? The cardinals will win anyway.



yeah, I think that is what lots of people said last year, and then the Cardinals stood around and fondled themselves while the BoSox ripped them new assholes.


You do realize that I don't care about baseball, right?

And the loss is still the Angels' fault.



You do realize that it doesn't matter to me what you care about, I am still going to respond if I want to respond, right??


How old are you? 5?



You are responding in a thread about a topic you don't care about.....and then I respond to it.....and I am immature. Nice one. Zip It Wang Chun.
bleacherbum3
I initially agreed with the protest idea. The Brett game was not replayed, but it was continued from that point.

I did hear today that the blown call wasn't even protestable because it was considered a judgement call, not a rule. I don't really agree with that, but that's what I saw today. I guess it's kinda like an unreviewable call in football.
timwakefield
QUOTE (bleacherbum3)
I initially agreed with the protest idea. The Brett game was not replayed, but it was continued from that point.

I did hear today that the blown call wasn't even protestable because it was considered a judgement call, not a rule. I don't really agree with that, but that's what I saw today. I guess it's kinda like an unreviewable call in football.


I meant they replayed part of it, not all of it.
KowboyKoop
QUOTE (bleacherbum3)
I initially agreed with the protest idea. The Brett game was not replayed, but it was continued from that point.

I did hear today that the blown call wasn't even protestable because it was considered a judgement call, not a rule. I don't really agree with that, but that's what I saw today. I guess it's kinda like an unreviewable call in football.


The game was replayed from Brett's home run onward. That is what I meant, whatever.

Also, it is a rule that you can't call a batter out in that exact situation and then rule that he is not out. But the umps have twisted it around to cover their ass. For example, they showed an example from the same game, in the 6th inning, where an Angels player swings at strike three in the dirt. Once he swings and misses, he makes the "waving" motion that he made in the ninth inning to signal a "swing and miss" BUT NOT AN OUT. He makes the OUT call ONLY after the catcher tags the batter with the ball, which is the correct way to do it.

The mistake the umpire made was he made the "swing and miss" signal when A.J. swung and missed, and then he made the OUT call before he knew for sure whether the ball had been caught. He should have just not made the call and acted like the ball hit the dirt, that way, if the batter was tagged or thrown out, then it wouldn't be a problem, but if A.J. did make it to first, then the home plate ump. could have huddled with the other umpires to see whether the ball had been caught or not, and if they decided that the ball had been caught, they could call A.J. out. However, b/c he called A.J. out too soon, and then allowed him to run to first, he backed himself into a corner that there was no way out of, without admitting that he broke the rule, which there is no way the umpires will ever do. and now everyone is trying to cover it up in the media (ESPN). Whatever though.
HoosierAlum
Ok, I made a semi-long analysis of the ALCS in the "Die White-Sox" thread, but I'll paste it here to just to see what everyone else thinks so far about the series....


I haven't been around much lately, so I've been unable able to band with K-dawg against all of these White Sox haters...

Honestly, after watching the White Sox dismantle Boston, I thought we were easily on our way to the World Series. The White Sox played stellar for 3 games, and the Angels had just come off a tough series with the Yankees. LA's ace, Bartolo Colon, was not on the ALCS roster and the entire Angel squad had to be physically fatigued due to the brutal travel schedule. I thought it would be an easy series for the White Sox and they would win in 5 or 6 games.....

Oops, I was wrong. The Angels came out in Game 1 looking like a complete championship caliber ballclub. I was very upset while watching LA beat the White Sox best pitcher on our home turf.

Then came Game 2. Mark Buehrle pitched the game of his life, and gave the Sox an opportunity to win the ball game. Regardless of the umpire blunder, this was a must-win game for the Sox, and Mark Buehrle and Joe Crede single-handedly saved the season for my team.

Now we move to LA and I have mixed feelings about the series. First, the White Sox hitting looks absolutely horrendous. We haven't faced stellar starting pitching so far, but we have managed to make both of LAs starters look like Cy Young winners. As for calling out individual players, Jermaine Dye needs to STEP UP. Since being moved into the 3 hole come playoff time, he hasn't done s.hit. I agreed with Ozzie's move to hit JD #3, in fact I had been wanting him to hit in that spot all season long. Maybe we were both wrong, because if Dye doesn't produce the rest of this series, the White Sox will not win.

On the other hand, the White Sox have continued to pitch well. Both Contreras and Buehrle pitched great games, and the bullpen is very well rested. This is very important because they will get heavy action over the weekend with Garland and Garcia staring games 3 and 4. I thought the White Sox had hands-down the best bullpen inthe league, but I am starting to wonder after watching LA. The Angels have a great bullpen led by Shields and KRod, so if the Sox go into the 7th inning of games trailing, they will be in deep trouble.

I don't know what to think. I want to believe the White Sox are a better team and will win this series, but they could easily be down 2-0. They HAVE to cut out those silly mental mistakes (baserunning) or they have no chance to beat this polished Angel squad. I think the White Sox bats will wake up in LA and they will play well on the road, just like they have all season. My prediction: The Sox win 2 out of 3 in LA, Lose game 6, and win game 7 behind Mark Buehrle. At least I can dream............


p.s. Anybody else going to try and buy World Series tickets on Tuesday? It will be next to impossible, but I'm going to give it a shot.
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