UTG plays about 70% preflop, likes to bet many of her draws, sometimes takes free cards, and doesnt usually call with less than top pair. MP+1 is new and I havent seen him show down a hand yet.

10/20 full (10 players)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 10 , 9 .
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) K , J , 9 .
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 5 .
Hero checks, UG checks, MP1 checks

River: (4BB) Q .
UG Bets, MP1 calls, hero folds.

tyler

Not sure I like the flop call.

A draw at 3 non-nut outs? Out of position?

5 outs to two pair or trips that only add to board coordination?

I don't think your draw is live enough and your odds aren't good enough to call the flop.

I don't mind the flop call, closing the action getting 7:1.

We have 4 gutshot outs. One which may be very dirty. And the other 3 we may split the pot or still lose to AT. Let's give us 1.5 outs total for the gutshot.

We also have a bd flush draw - another 1.5 outs.

Our T outs suck, let's forget about them completely.

Our 9 outs have to be worth something. Close to 2.

That's about 5 outs total. Just enought to peel.

If you can play well postflop, I think you can peel. If not, I think you should just fold. Calling is thin.


River is interesting. After UTG leads, I think you're usually either splitting the pot, or losing. I think the fold here is ok, since you're most likely playing for 3BB.

the flop call isn't bad at all when the turn gets checked through a good percent of the time like it was here.

in a more aggressive game, the flop call starts sucking, but is still good in a donkey game where people pay off one-card straights.

in an aggressive and even slightly good/tough game, the flop call sucks a lot.

aseem

the river is mostly read-dependent. overcalling isn't an issue here.

given your read, i'd go ahead and call UTG. she is clearly a donkey, and i wouldn't doubt that she has J-x for a pair or Q-J or Q-9 or something.

aseem

Really weak fold imo. You def have mp1 beat or in a spot to split the pot with him. Getting 6:1 easy call i would think

I've gone completely back and forth on this hand. I think the call on the flop is pretty close considering that i was closing the action. I really didnt expect the turn to get checked through. At the time my reasoning was exactly like what screech said. I thought for sure that when it was checked on the turn they had to both be on some sort of draw. Considering that when my draw came through it was the worst possible one, i was thinking i was probably going to chop, but fully expected a really weak flush from the UG and maybe even a10 from MP1. With all that being said they both showed down Q9 and it was confirmed that i was thinking this out way too much. When i told the guy to my right what i folded he laughed and told me that this game never makes sense as he finished off his crown and coke. Thanks for the responses that made me not feel so stupid.

tyler