Sorry about the unoriginal topic, guys, but what's the most important thing to consider when moving from Party 2/4 to 3/6?

When going from 1/2 to 2/4 I notice that turn and river play got trickier, with more check-raising. It took some adjusting, but I'm beating the game now (let's hope). I'll add that I'm only in for 10,000 hands at the 2/4 so I'm not ready to move up yet (though I've built my bankroll high enough for 3/6).

So anyway, any opinions on the difference between 2/4 and 3/6 on Party? I remember reading about how 2/4 is actually a pretty rock'ish level, and that 3/6 has more fish. Is there any truth to that?

I'm primary interested in how much better of a player you need to be in order to beat the 3/6, compared to 2/4.

Thanks

I've noticed people seem to checkraise top pair and goofy stuff like that a lot more at 3/6 than 2/4.

In general, the one thing you tend to notice at a rather linear progression as you move up stakes is that aggression seems to increase, and people try to take the lead more.

But if you've got the success rate at 2/4 to back it up you ought to be fine. Just don't go crazy making adjustments to your game if things go bad at first. Have confidence in your game, and good luck!

In general, the one thing you tend to notice at a rather linear progression as you move up stakes is that aggression seems to increase, and people try to take the lead more.

In my experience, the difference between 1/2 and 2/4 was so huge that another linear progression to 3/6 seems frightening! That's not to say that 2/4 is THAT difficult, but probably more that 1/2 really is THAT easy to beat.

But if you've got the success rate at 2/4 to back it up you ought to be fine. Just don't go crazy making adjustments to your game if things go bad at first.

This will be important for me to keep in mind. I just hate the idea of telling myself that I'm just having a downswing, when in fact I'm getting spanked by the other players. No other to know but to play more hands, I guess.

Thanks for the reply

The thing you got to remember about downswings is they can happen for a lot of reasons, or as the sum of the net effects of lots of little reasons. What matters is that you're thinking correctly and playing correctly.

I'm stuck for 1400 at the 1/3 NL live card room out here in Athens from the last month... and each time I go I feel like I'm learning a lot and adapting my play and becoming stronger. I've made some mistakes, I've been getting some bad cards, but I've still got confidence in my game and in myself.

Or so I tell myself anyway.

Hey, some jackass retired this name without telling me, so this post is probably, like, illegal or something, but, caveats aside:

1) You'll find more "wow, he's good" players. I know some strong players that stubbornly love the action at 3/6, and demolish the games there. They eat people's children. They are few few few and far between. But sometimes you're gonna run into a Semi-loose or Super-loose aggressive player that's got real chops. (shrug) Swallow your pride, give him credit, and stay away.

2) You see more correct plays. Things like appropriate play in WA/WB situations becomes more frequent (though not at all prevalent). For example, you might c/r with TP no kicker, and never get a heads up from TP good kicker. He'll let you waste 2 more bets instead of giving you a heads up that you're behind.

3) Tighter preflop. Things like blind stealing, blind play, and late position play become crucial to maximizing winnings. Don't be scared to put extra bets in preflop and on the flop when there's a good chance your opponent's aggressive and full of crap. You'll run into the occassional decent game where the cutoff or button almost ALWAYS open-raises if given the option. This probably ties into #1. Also, the late position poster always open raises, and he never has anything.


Cheers and goodluck,

Icedadio

Iceman, why the retirement?

Long story. TheIceman05 was 5 of us (har har) that posted pretty regularly under the same hizandle. The group kinda split up recently, so the dorky one decided to do the "right thing" and return TheIceman05 to the ashes from whence he/we came.

I've been busy gambling and didn't hear. I think one/two/three of us will continue posting in the future under different handles.

I think I might keep using this one. You know. Fucking for spite, and shit.

I'm sure the dorkpolice will be clarifying for my hammered ass soon. Whatever dorkface says usually goes.

He's cool, so I guess I'll honor his wishes.

He's still an ass.

Ice

The biggest difference I found was in blind play. Having a reasonable knowledge of shorthanded play and blind defense can go a long way towards this. Also, you fold a lot more in the SB since the complete cost is 2/3SB instead of 1/2SB. I know wrto4556 has posted in the past about specifics of how his small blind completion requirements changed.

You also see fewer flops because there is more preflop raising so marginal hands that want a large multi-way pot see fewer profitable opporutnities. My play changed very little (if anything I'm more willing to play marginal hands from the blinds against a LP raise) and my VP$IP went from 22.36 to 17.46 (I have tightened up from UTG a little since fewer pots are unraised with lots of limpers)

Also, don't be afraid to make isolation 3-bets with medium pairs like 88 preflop. If there was only a raise in front you it's unlikely you'll get enough people to try and hit a set

Finally, if you have the bankroll, by all means move up. If you hit a moderate downswing like 100BB, drop back down and play more at 2/4. If you are being reasonably profitable (about 2BB or higher) it is highly unlikely you are not a winning player at 2/4.

Zara

Man, Ice. I remember always seeing your posts and thinking, "That there...that's a cool guy." And, now...I feel betrayed. I don't know what to think anymore. My entire world is turned upside down.

Man, Ice. I remember always seeing your posts and thinking, "That there...that's a cool guy." And, now...I feel betrayed. I don't know what to think anymore. My entire world is turned upside down.


So this isn't the time to mention that I'm a cabal of Hatian Voodoo witchdoctors ramdonly stringing together words created from randomly drawing scrabble tiles from a bag while drinking the blood of a goat through a severed elephant penis then, probably?

Ever seen Blackadder?