brando
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 8:48 PM
(6 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:diamond:, T:diamond:.
UTG calls, MP calls,
3 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: (3.50 SB) 9:heart:, J:heart:, 8:club:
(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 8:spade:
(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.
River: (9.25 BB) J:spade:
(3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, Hero ?
Pot is 12.25BB now.
Is this a standard bet/ fold? Pot to big?...that river blows me
jayboogie
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 8:55 PM
Check/Call the river, of course your probably beat here, but there's a slight chance your hand is still good and with the pot so big, it's better to be safe and call it down.
Actuary
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 8:59 PM
I vote fold.
I can't imagine you are wining > 8% here
unless there's a good read he's super agg
jayboogie
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 9:04 PM
See, that's the problem with betting in the first place, I just don't see what hands are paying you off on this board, if he has a flush draw, he folds. If he has a 9, I think he may fold that too. If he has a Jack, he's obviously raising.
If you check, you may induce a bluff from a missed flush draw or even a desperate bet to steal the pot with a pair of 9's. I think the pot's too big to fold, so showing this hand down cheaply is what I'd do.
brando
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 9:08 PM
QUOTE (jayboogie)
See, that's the problem with betting in the first place, I just don't see what hands are paying you off on this board, if he has a flush draw, he folds. If he has a 9, I think he may fold that too. If he has a Jack, he's obviously raising.
If you check, you may induce a bluff from a missed flush draw or even a desperate bet to steal the pot with a pair of 9's. I think the pot's too big to fold, so showing this hand down cheaply is what I'd do.
Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through. This makes since and check/call is prolly best. I honestly have no clue as any hand that raises the river that I can beat, I can't even think of one. I don't know how good check/call is either...still lost
JaysonWeber
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 9:31 PM
Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through.
You don't think through a double paired board.. you check/call, or check/fold
brando
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 9:38 PM
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through.
You don't think through a double paired board.. you check/call, or check/fold
HA! I thought, problem was it was for 0.15397 seconds and bet/fold came to mind.
So
bet/fold - bad?
check/fold > check/call?
screech
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 3:26 AM
I'm usually checking this river. No worse hands are calling a bet.
brando
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:03 AM
QUOTE (screech)
I'm usually checking this river. No worse hands are calling a bet.
Do you call a bet?
Actuary
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:06 AM
check/call - catch a missed FD.
its close with c/f
my original fold line was if you bet first
Blumonkey
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:16 AM
I'm check folding this river. MP more than likely missed his flush hence the fold and UTG filled up or caught quads in there. There is a very slight possibilty hes has the same hand you have and wants you to think he has the boat. Thats a readyou have to make and since you were multi tabling and your lack of time as you put it I would fold.
KDawgCometh
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:17 AM
people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/folding
brando
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:22 AM
QUOTE (KDawgCometh)
people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/folding
I know bet/fold was the worst option I could have picked, like I said I wasn't really thinking. So are c/f and c/c so close it doesn't matter?
KDawgCometh
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 8:26 AM
QUOTE (brando)
QUOTE (KDawgCometh)
people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/folding
I know bet/fold was the worst option I could have picked, like I said I wasn't really thinking. So are c/f and c/c so close it doesn't matter?
no, it does matter, I just think that in the heat of the moment, I'm check/calling and hating myself for it
jayboogie
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 10:29 AM
You can afford to make the call when the pot's this big, against a player who never bluffs and plays incredibly straight forward, maybe you can fold it, but just about any player may feel inclined to take a shot at the pot when shown weakness, so calling down is usually the best play given that your hand has a slight chance of still being good.
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