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Binbs
** Game ID 517934596 starting - 2005-09-29 03:05:21
** Foolish Love [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- egilmann sitting in seat 1 with $200.00 [Sitting out]
- MartZ sitting in seat 2 with $200.00 [Sitting out]
- covenant69 sitting in seat 3 with $337.70
- KrazyKowboys sitting in seat 4 with $227.25 [Dealer]
- Tattoofreak sitting in seat 5 with $169.79
- Binbs sitting in seat 6 with $187.55

Tattoofreak posted the small blind - $1.00
Binbs posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Binbs: Queen icon_suit_spade.gif , Queen icon_suit_diamond.gif
covenant69 folded
KrazyKowboys called - $2.00
Tattoofreak folded
Binbs bet - $8.00
KrazyKowboys called - $8.00

** Dealing the flop: 10 icon_suit_heart.gif , 4 icon_suit_heart.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif
Binbs bet - $15.00
KrazyKowboys called - $15.00

** Dealing the turn: 9 icon_suit_club.gif
Binbs bet - $35.00
KrazyKowboys raised - $70.00
egilmann was disconnected
Binbs called - $70.00

** Dealing the river: 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif
egilmann reconnected
Binbs checked
KrazyKowboys checked
Bubba83
This is a really tough hand to analyze, the fact that he has position on you makes his hand range incredibly wide. It's hard to tell wether he has you beat on the turn, or is raising, hoping you're making continuation leads, to pick up the pot with some flush or straight outs to rely on if you actually have the overpair. It's scary just calling here with Queens out of position because the river will be your worst nightmare pretty often. With the river looking so innocent and it going check check, I am guessing he ended up having a hand like 10J, Ah Qh or Ac Qc, or even a monster draw like Ah Jh, Ac Jc. What'd he have?
Binbs
He had 6 icon_suit_heart.gif 5 icon_suit_heart.gif
the red bull
QUOTE (Binbs)
He had 6 icon_suit_heart.gif 5 icon_suit_heart.gif


Check was good. He wouldn't have paid you off anyways.

Also, don't post the result of the hand so soon.
Bubba83
I see, well, I don't like his raise on the turn much, other than that, I think his hand makes sense, i didnt realize he had limped in, and then called. His holding makes more sense now since he may have definitely open raised with some of the hands I put him as possibly having. If the river falls the same way, and he moves all in for the 100 more he has left, what are you doing?
Binbs
Tell you the truth. The fact that he miniraised me let me to believe that he was just trying to blow me outta the pot.

It was a real tough decision for me. And Im not sure what I woulda done if he had followed thru with a river bet.
akishore
start analyzing board texture, a lot more.

obviously the turn decision isn't clear-cut at all in this hand, but i lean soooo much more towards calling.

why?

because the board is so draw-heavy.

a lot of players semi-bluff in this spot. a lot of players have a pair and now they picked up a club draw on the turn.

etc.

if the board was really ragged, i would consider laying it down much more seriously, because of the real possibility of a set or two pair.

aseem
cheetaking
From what I have seen at the $1/$2 level, most of the players will not lead out if they have a monster hand

If KrazyKowboys had hit a straight on the turn, he probably would have smooth called and tried to trap you into betting again on the river.

If he had 2 pair or trips, he would now be scared of the straight, and would be re-raising much more then the minimum.

You made a very standard raise pre-flop out of position, so he is probably reading that you have two face cards in your hand. If this is the case, he thinks that you either have A/10 or are completely bluffing. Now there is a potential straight out there, so those are some serious scare cards. And the best way to represent a monster hand? The minimum re-raise. He's trying to get inside your head and make you fold your 'overcards'.
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