J-Dub
Tuesday, September 27th, 2005, 11:23 AM
Sorry for the lack of conversion, this took place a while ago.
$3/$6 Seven-Card stud on UB, seven players. Pretty solid table, no real loose cannons or rocks. I bring it in with (33)3, two folds, a nine calls (P1), Jack (P2) completes to $3, fold around to me. I call as does P1.
Fourth street I pick up the case 3 and have the high board. I bet $3 and both players call. At this point I'm trying to figure out the best way to get the most money in the pot. Both players have relatively weak boards, no pair showing, and only one or two high cards. I figure each of them for a drawing hand (straight or flush) and possibly two pair at best.
5th St: I'm looking at (33)33T, neither player looks to have improved much. A 3-straight for P2 with high cards is the most interesting board. I decide to check, P1 checks and P2 bets. I reasoned that I don't want to give too much away by check-raising here and probably chasing off P1 and putting P2 on the deffensive. So I call, as does P1.
6th St: (33)33TA, I decide to lead out this time and both players call again.
River: I lead out again, P1 folds P2 calls with a straight.
End result: I win 11.5BB ($69.5)
I'm wondering how you all might have played this hand being highboard the whole way as I was. Would you have gone for a check-raise at any point?
Rocketwadster
Tuesday, September 27th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Nice hand.
I would not have bet on 4th street. Terrible if your opponents fold there, which many would when you have a pair showing.
The only other possible change I would make would be to NOT lead out on 6th. You got an ace there, which may have scared your opponents (people tend to play aces more often than say 7's). Any other card comes off, I would have lead out I think, but not the ace. 8)
J-Dub
Tuesday, September 27th, 2005, 5:09 PM
My reasoning for betting the min on 4th (and on 6th with the ace) were to get something in the pot and not have it checked around.
Socko669
Tuesday, September 27th, 2005, 6:04 PM
i would check fourth as well, but probably play the rest of the hand the same as you did...i suppose you could go for a check raise on sixth.
KowboyKoop
Tuesday, September 27th, 2005, 7:54 PM
I think I agree with you leading out on fourth st. and playing this aggressively, and my reason is this. Any time I voluntarily put money in the pot and then pair my door card, I am always going to bet the full amount and represent trips (unless of course someone else has paired a higher door card).
For example, if I have (x x) 7 and call the bring-in or call a raise, doesn't matter, then if I catch a 7 on fourth street, I am going to bet the max. every single time if I am high on board. Regardless of whether I have zero, one, or both sevens in the hole, I am going to play this hand the exact same way, so that my opponents will never be able to figure out what my bet means in this situation. Thus, I believe that you should play your monster hands the exact same way as your more marginal hands in these types of situations, so that you will keep your opponents off-balance. So, if you have quads and you lead out and your opponents fold, then yes, you lose money here, but in the long run, you will win extra bets because of the fact that your opponents will never be able to put you on a hand when this situation comes up, whereas if you bet out in certain situations and checked in others, you risk becoming predictable.
Also, this play does NOT apply to when you are the bring-in and nobody raises and then you pair your door card. In this situation, I would almost always check, even if I did have trips.
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