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Born2BeKing
I havent read etheir one and i was thinking about picking up SuperSystem and Super System 2 but is it worth buying both? Are they very similar or fairly different from eachother? Thanks.
Spidurman
two different books by the same main author. I'd just get SS2.
Awful
NL Holdem section in 2 is a rewrite of SS1.

SS1 covers different games, but mostly outdated
Draw: dead
Stud High: falling out of favor
Stud Hi-Lo, no qualifier: dead
Razz: minimal coverage, but that's more than 2
Single Draw Lowball: mostly dead
Limit Hold 'Em is different in SS1, and useful but inferior to that in SS2

All math and tables is available elsewhere more cheaply and efficiently

SS2 covers modern games and has sections on tourney play, the new limit holdem section, covers stud/8, omaha, omaha/8, 2-7 triple draw

Unless you plan to play stud or razz, or you want the original limit holdem section (you shouldn't), just get 2
Spidurman
QUOTE (Awful)
NL Holdem section in 2 is a rewrite of SS1.

SS1 covers different games, but mostly outdated
Draw: dead
Stud High: falling out of favor
Stud Hi-Lo, no qualifier: dead
Razz: minimal coverage, but that's more than 2
Single Draw Lowball: mostly dead
Limit Hold 'Em is different in SS1, and useful but inferior to that in SS2

All math and tables is available elsewhere more cheaply and efficiently

SS2 covers modern games and has sections on tourney play, the new limit holdem section, covers stud/8, omaha, omaha/8, 2-7 triple draw

Unless you plan to play stud or razz, or you want the original limit holdem section (you shouldn't), just get 2


The 7-stud section is amazing, when I've been in mixed games with stud, I just rely on my Chip Reese smile.gif Razz - just get 2+2s hi/lo split book its implied there in the stud 8OB.
Erik67
Get SS2, Jennifer's Limit HE section is very good. Sections on O8 and PLO are new as well. Doyle also get's into tournament strategy more than the first one.
Born2BeKing
looks like most people sayin just get SS2, i mean if i got both thats 1200+ pages to read! ill just get SS2 and save the money for Daniel's book. thanks.
KDawgCometh
if you are qa big stud fan, then everything that chip reese says in it applies today, other than that, yeah get SS/2. There might be a way to get the stud section, it is really good and really well written
AceOfSpaiDs
i got both, SS2 is more recent and updated (prolly better too), but both have very useful information icon_suit_spade.gif

BTW, you can pick up both at Amazon for around $20/each (that's what I did...and 2/3 day air is only $6 extra (free if order is over $50)
KDawgCometh
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Stud High: falling out of favor



ehhh...wrong. Stud is still the main game played across america. If you go to any casino that has a poker room north of the Mason Dixie line you'll find plenty of stud games being spread. In AC many of the holdem games get started because people are waiting for a stud table
kevinoc85
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Stud High: falling out of favor


The European Championship is Stud. Reese's section is brilliant. It will teach you just about anything you need to know about the game.
PestoSauce
It's so funny that NL Hold em is a rewrite from SS1 given the total explosion of the game in the last few years. I mean, I'm sure things have changed "somewhat" since SS1. They should have revised it a little bit at least.
uahphysics
QUOTE (PestoSauce)
It's so funny that NL Hold em is a rewrite from SS1 given the total explosion of the game in the last few years. I mean, I'm sure things have changed "somewhat" since SS1. They should have revised it a little bit at least.


doyle actually mentions that in SS2, he says he sat down to try and revise the chapter for modern times, but he didn't see anything he didn't agree with lol
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (uahphysics)
doyle actually mentions that in SS2, he says he sat down to try and revise the chapter for modern times, but he didn't see anything he didn't agree with lol



actually I have to agree with Dolly here. Many people are upset that he didn't add much new to it, but if you go through, what does he really need to change. Everything holds true today same with the stud section in SS1
SportsW234
The only useful sections of Super System 1 that can be applied today is the Seven Card Stud section, 2-7 No Limit section, the brief Razz tutorial, and the No Limit Hold'em section. The Limit Hold'em section is a little too simple, seven card stud high/low is basically bead, A-5 is played triple draw, and high card draw is dead. I say only buy the original Super System if your are unterested in playing Seven Card Stud and no limit 2-7. For Razz go to Sklansky.
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