goose
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 10:02 PM
I'm in the midst of a $10 4K tourney, down to 70 players, and this hand just occured... thoughts?
Hero (button) has roughly 15,000 (I'm 3rd overall in chips)
UTG+1 has 2500
MP has 2500
CO has 3500
Preflop hero is dealt 5[h]7[h]
UTG+1 limps, MP limps, CO raises from 300 to 600 (minimum raise), I call, folds back around to UTG+1 who calls, MP calls (I had figured they'd just call, loose passive players who have yet to check raise - I only called because I expected 4way action).
Flop
5[s]6[h]8[d]
UTG raised 500, MP calls, CO raises all-in, I re-raise all-in. (both end up calling as expected).
bdc30
Wednesday, September 21st, 2005, 5:45 AM
uh,
fold preflop,
fold on the flop,
and post this in the tourney section.
lol (sw)
Whiskey16
Wednesday, September 21st, 2005, 6:05 AM
[quote="bdc30"]uh,
fold preflop,
fold on the flop,
quote]
blinds are 150/300 obviously, meaning those short stacks aren't long for the tourney. Why get yourself all-in when you're probably drawing at best. Looks like chip spewing to me, especially cold calling the raise.
Pick a better spot if you're 3rd overall in chips.
ChrisOfSpades
Wednesday, September 21st, 2005, 8:47 AM
QUOTE (bdc30)
uh,
fold preflop,
fold on the flop,
and post this in the tourney section.
lol (sw)
TJ_Eckleburg
Wednesday, September 21st, 2005, 3:12 PM
I'm noticing a recurring theme in the advice I post on for tournaments:
Fold preflop.
I don't think you're getting a good enough price on this hand to call. In my experience, minimum raises are almost always fishy plays, and often means a) premium hands, b) small pocket pairs, or c) suited connectors... all of which 7h5h isn't drawing favorably to.
Furthermore, the coordinated flop absolutely nails other suited connectors, mid-pocket pairs, and overpairs might push too hard. Yes you're getting better than 2:1, but what are your outs here? Is the straight good? Can we really count the other two 5's as outs?
Not a hand you should be looking to bust people with.
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