$11+R Qualifier to the PLHE WCOOP main event, still in the rebuy period
(9-handed)
Seat 1: shades225 (3955 in chips)
Seat 5: strategy (2865 in chips)
strategy: posts small blind 15
eddieboy: posts big blind 30

Dealt to strategy [4:diamond: 2:diamond:]
Call, raise to 90, call, strategy raises to 240, call, call.

*** FLOP *** [T:diamond: 4h Q:diamond:]
strategy bets 360, call, fold

*** TURN *** [Td 4h Qd] [6s]
strategy bets 1500, call

*** RIVER *** [Td 4h Qd 6s] [5:diamond:]
strategy bets 765 all-in, call

did you have a read to re-raise him with 24, outta position?

I'm not so sure I like your turn bet.

- Jordan

Here, I'll add in suits on the OP.

I edited.

Why?

I don't understand the preflop raise, and I don't get the turn bet. Raising with 2 4 out of position? and why raise after the turn. It is reasonable to believe you are up against another flush draw, clearly a better one. or you are up agianst a better pair. Either way, the bet on the turn dosen't look good.

Also why the river bet? The only way you get called is if you are beat.

Best play, fold preflop.

the reraise preflop is garbage, if you say you want them to fold, don't be a fool, it is the rebuy period!! If you want to rebuy 20 times in hopes of getting a big stack, then it's fine i guess, but not my style. Postflop I think the flop bet needs to be bigger, or maybe you chould try a big checkraise. Betting small like you did should just drag people along and make the later streets hard to play, you want most of the money in on the flop, or just to take it down there.

Not true at all. I dislike how the hand was played pretty much the entire way through, but pushing the rest of his chips in on the river is absolutely essential at that point. With a pot this huge, plenty of lesser hands are calling the final all in river bet (which isn't very much). If someone puts him all in, he's calling anyway because of how much he's invested and the fact that he does indeed have a flush. Just like he won't be able to get away from the hand because of how big the pot is, neither will his opponent when he is faced with the final 765 on the end (Even if he only has something like top pair, he will likely call if he's called up to this point.)

This isn't really debatable IMO. If he's going to play the hand this way up until now, he must push on the river. Must.

You got a lot of money in pre-flop when most players would either fold or just call the 90, and youve become a solid favorite in the hand during the rebuy period.

I would price the flop bet higher, but not so much to force everyone out, and a check raise might present too much strength. You want to get some money in the pot without chasing them, so I would bet the pot, which is aroujnd 750 if im following the abbreviated hand history correctly.

Assuming you get the one call, then theres 2250 in the pot, and the turn is a blank, but your 4s may still be good, and youve got 13-17 outs. You need to sell that youve got a made hand and are trying to price out a flush draw.

A turn bet of 700 barely prices out his "flush draw", and you cant bet enough to price yourself out of your own draw (at least at 17 outs
) so I would normally like to bet about 1000 here.

But you also dont want him pot committed in case you miss and want to retain some power to bluff the river. Hes got about 1000 in and 2955 left, youve got about 1700 left. To have any strength on the river I think you have to limit your bet to 700...1000 on the river is going to look a lot worse than say, 850, if you bet 850 on the turn. At 700 hes still got more than half his original stack and isnt totally committed.

On the river, all in, whether you hit or not (and all in the way the hand really went).

Gee, that hand looks familiar! Strategy and I were at the same table for awhile.

My read on Strategy up to this point was that he was playing ABC poker. The raise pre-flop put him on a big A or other decent starting hand.

Based on that flop, TPTK was in my head as I watched the betting go around. That flop gave Strategy a lot of options as he could possibly win the hand outright by representing an AQ or hitting his baby flush.

I like Copernicus' idea of betting 700 on the turn to keep the "bluff" option open. Although the 1,500 bet on the turn was reasonable as it continues the storyline that Strategy has TPTK and was trying to get rid of the flush draws.

I don't think that the turn bet amount mattered in this case as the other guy was going to the end with his hand.

The guy was very unhappy after this hand and basicaly tilted away all his chips afterwards by the way!

Actually being there, I liked this hand as I considered it a "change-up" to the way Strategy had been playing and once he got that favorable flop - it played out nicely.

I could see the other guy hold in Kd/Q and just chasing for a 2 pair or runner runner for the flush. He's just calling here the whole way.

I'm assuming he's just hoping his top pair is good.

And I'm sure he's not an avid reader on the forum and doesn't know that you shouldn't be calling with top pair for most of your chips.

Sounds like you made a semi-bluff, that gets called down by a bad read or a amature-esque play.

Another victim of implied tilt odds.

As I'm sure you recognized, this was just an advertising play. I didn't really care if I hit my river, I just wanted to show down 24s after the way I played it. My problem with this play is that our table broke shortly after this hand went down (less than half an hour, right?). I picked up a lot of chips and it worked great, but I have never been able to tell which table is going to break next in pokerstars tournaments. Do they go by number? Is it random?

Pocket jacks.

Close enough