Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Jd], [Qc].
1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) [Qd], [7h], [8s] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) [Tc] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (11.25 BB) [Qh] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB


Instantly, after I see the limp-reraise, I know he has AA. Maybe KK but almost always AA. So, I call hoping to flop a big hand.

As soon as I see just the Q on the flop, I know I am proceeding with caution. I am not just going to fold (because some bad players do the limp-reraise out of boredom). I figure with a flop raise, I will know for sure if he has it. When he 3 bets, that makes me 100% sure, so I call trying for pot odds.

Now the turn helps my hand. Now I have 4 9's that help me.

River is obvious.


This is why I will never limp-reraise with AA. He lost all of his fold vig when he told me what his hand was.

Ick. I hate how you played this hand man. Raise preflop with QJo in this position? It'd be fine in a 6-max game but I think it's not a good move 10 handed.

I don't think I'm raising this flop with the read you gave me. It's a spew as we don't have a decent draw. Turn and river play themselves.

Don't raise preflop, otherwise it looks fine to me.

I agree. Usually I would limp, but I had been catching no cards and had a table image of a very tight player (tighter than usual). I think my VP$IP for this session was about 10%. A couple players at the table had noticed it and said something in the chatbox.

I felt that would make it more likely for them to fold marginal hands that they would have been raising with if I had just limped.

Why are you raising QJo from MP ? I fold QJo from MP. It's dominated by everything and its mother.

Admitting I played it, I raise the flop to see where I stand, but I'm eager to believe the 3-bet and fold to it. Too many things beating me, including KQ.

Starting to play marginal hands out of position because you've been cold decked for a while is a leak, imho. If you want to change your image, do it in position.

I don't think you understood. I am not playing the hand because I am bored and tired of folding.

A- raising with QJ offsuit, unless you were trying to steal the blinds from late position, this is a horrible play.....mistake #1

B-you read him for Aces or Kings after his limp-reraise, and then decided that you were going to have to hit a big flop.....good read (you said it was obvious), but.....

C-you DO NOT hit a big flop, (Top Pair weak kicker isn't that good, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAD HIM ON ACES OR KINGS) yet you chased anyways.....this is the biggest mistake, you made a read, knew that you were very likely right in that read, yet did not have the discipline to fold the second best hand. Instead, you chased anyways for who knows what reason...this is what fish do, and when they suck out on some of the FCP posters, they like to complain and make fun of them. This is an extremely fishy move (not calling you a fish, but the move is fishy) and will cost you alot, ALOT of money if you continue to do it. If i see the flop with this hand (which I wouldn't, but for this purpose we will say i accidentally hit the call button) then I do not hesitate to fold to one bet on the flop.....

Okay so I should have folded preflop (or maybe just limped).

What about my pot odds? I think my read helps the call here. If I don't know what he has and he is raising me, he could have AQ, KQ, a set, etc... I should fold because who knows which outs are live. But, I know he has AA. Therefore, I have 2 queens, 3 jacks and 4 9's that I can hit to win. Why would I fold after getting 3 bet on the flop with those odds? Same question for the turn.

Do you really want this?

That means that the only hands that are calling you are ones that have one of your cards dominated, or a pocket pair 9's and up. Wouldn't you rather limp and get action from someone raising 10/Joff from the button? Or someone trying to isolate you with a low pocket pair? Not that im saying J/Qoff is an easy limp from MP either. It's a borderline case i think.

With J/Qoff you definitely arent in a position where you want callers. Virtually every hand that calls you is superior. The best thing you can hope for is that it gets folded around, but with 7 or so people left to act, that seems unlikely.

You are right. Thanks for the help.

Gotcha.

Just to make this clear, should I have folded or limped preflop?

fold pf from here