I was UTG with A 2 6 3 . I limped.

Two more limpers. Someone potted it back at $20 to $30.

I folded.

The board was 268 with 2 hearts...

Tell me I did the right thing to fold preflop.

I might have called...nut low, flush draw possibilities, plus mid-road straights. $30 to call, right?

Yeah, I am currently unstable at playing PLO8. I am trying to absorb both Smash's playing style and Ribbo's playing style, which are completely opposite to each other.

Sometimes I will shed my skin.

Sounds rough, man. I'm hoping to contribute somewhat around here, so if there's anyway i can assist, just ask.

Does position in PLO8 play that big a role? I haven't made the leap to PLO8 and don't think I will soon but if these types of hands are unplayable UTG I'd be interested in finding out why? Although I suspect it has to do with the weak chance of scooping before seeing the flop. So other than the obvious AA23 double sooooted what types of hands are worth pushing in PLO8?

Position is huge in that game.

The only thing I can say, not specifically
about this hand but in general, is NOT to
play with scared money. Don't think of
it as $30, think of it as % or pot size or bets
or whatever. If you're worried about it
in that "it's 30 bucks", then you're playing
at a limit that's above your head and/or
your bankroll.

No it's not about the money, I was more concerned about making the right plays (I had over $500 stack at that time and I had enough BR to sit at 2K, I was more than once attempted to seat at the 2K tables but I knew my skill/discipline was just not there yet).

He's not scared of losing his lunch money. He's scared of confronting the raiser out of position.

For what it's worth, I would have played that hand. It's true you're out of position, but a suited A236 is too good not to pass up a look at the flop. Folding may be correct, however.

Good luck.

I was trying to remember what Smash's said, not playing any thing from UTG to MP1. I was trying to develop greater discipline. Actually before I called that hand, I seriously considered folding it, but I just wasn't disciplined enough to let go of it. I told myself if I got raised than I would fold it. I got my wish then I told myself, "damn it I told you to fold it before". Then I folded it. I could have won a monster flop... That sick feeling made me go on tilt the very next hand...

Ah, discipline...

I could very easily call here, especially if the raiser has a big stack. If he is the sort of player to overplay a weak AA, you can really punish him here, as long as you have the implied odds.

As you have noted, there are several different styles of play that work for different people (actually, I don't think the styles of Ribbo and Smash are that different at all, based on their posts although I have never knowingly seen Smash play). You have to find a balance between staying out of trouble and causing trouble that works for you. Also, if everyone around the table is playing super-tight (both pre- and post-flop) then you should be loosening up a bit.

Now I like to talk about the very hand that I went broke.

I was at BB with A 2 Qx and a decent low (it was a 4 or 5, don't remember exactly) and at that time I had over $500. One limper, another player with over $900 stack pot-raised for $18 (He was also playing at the 2K and 1K tables, I do checkout my opponents). I was #$%*&ing myself for not calling the previous hand and I called quickly. HU situation, preflop pot was $42.

Flop was AAT rb. I checked, Villain potted $42. Normally I would fold but I stupidly called (I had that lesson b4).

The turn was a 6. I checked and Villain potted it again, $126. Then my bad habit kicked in, I repotted it at about $500 leaving myself with about less than $20 left. Villain called.

Last card was a high card and you knew the rest of the story. Villain had A4KX so he had Ace trip with K kicker.

Two things I like to mention here
1. Don't let the previous result nor emotion to affect the current play.
2. My bluff was bad. If I were to bluff here again, I would min-raise on the turn, then push it on the river. That would have a greater chance.

Left the table immediately. Then bought in another $400 later on and grinded it back for $200 in about 2 hours of play. I hated myself... once a while I just screwed myself up.

Two questions JacKing

I am very new to PLO8

Say you would have called preflop with that hand

So you flopped the nut low and with the flush draw

How do you play it from there, do you pound or do u basically play it cautiously until you possible make your flush?

Secondly, who is Ribbo?

Thanks

I flopped bottom 2 pairs, nut low, and nut flush draw.

Since you can expect the preflop raiser to do the continuation bet on the flop, I would had checked then pot-raised it.

Preflop raiser had AA5X, forgot another player's cards. But I would have won a pot well over a grand.

http://www.ribbo.com

This is an easy fold pre-flop UTG.

Really easy.

Good luck.

Smash, what is your V$IP UTG? And on the button?