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Pupsta
i KNOW it's such a small sample size, 900 hands, but there must be some serious holes in my game because i'm already down 60bb. going to post some trouble hands, help would be appreciated (i don't know if converter works with FT yet, so i'm not going to try)

FullTiltPoker Game #202685461: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 14:55:14 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: billybibbitt ($13.80)
Seat 2: Pupsta ($14.10)
Seat 3: JBC49 ($8.35)
Seat 4: scarycarrie ($11.50)
Seat 5: tjruk04 ($18)
Seat 6: You_Got_Chips ($3.55)
Seat 7: Max Parkwood ($9.65)
Seat 9: STEVE777 ($7.10)
Max Parkwood posts the small blind of $0.10
STEVE777 posts the big blind of $0.25
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ah Th]
billybibbitt calls $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
JBC49 folds
scarycarrie folds
You_Got_Chips folds
Max Parkwood folds
STEVE777 folds
Professor Zoom sits down
billybibbitt calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Js Kd As]
Professor Zoom adds $8
billybibbitt bets $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
billybibbitt raises to $0.75
Pupsta calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Js Kd As] [5c]
billybibbitt bets $0.50
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Js Kd As 5c] [Ks]
billybibbitt bets $0.50
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***



FullTiltPoker Game #202387823: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 3:44:06 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 2: steveski2 ($6.05)
Seat 3: burmabri ($23.05)
Seat 7: MolaMan ($21.40)
Seat 8: Pupsta ($10.60)
Pupsta posts the small blind of $0.10
steveski2 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Jd Jh]
burmabri calls $0.25
MolaMan folds
Pupsta raises to $0.50
steveski2 calls $0.25
burmabri calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [3h 9s 9h]
Pupsta bets $0.25
steveski2 calls $0.25
burmabri calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [3h 9s 9h] [2h]
Pupsta bets $0.50
steveski2 folds
burmabri calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [3h 9s 9h 2h] [7h]
Pupsta bets $0.50
burmabri raises to $1
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***


FullTiltPoker Game #202411752: Table Harrison - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 4:31:06 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: Pupsta ($6.80)
Seat 2: JBC49 ($12.35)
Seat 4: Raff ($4.25)
Seat 5: stu1222 ($12.30)
Seat 8: DGPerry ($16.50)
Pupsta posts the small blind of $0.10
JBC49 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ac Js]
Raff raises to $0.50
stu1222 folds
DGPerry folds
Pupsta raises to $0.75
JBC49 calls $0.50
Raff calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [7s Ah 4h]
Pupsta bets $0.25
JBC49 calls $0.25
Raff calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [7s Ah 4h] [6c]
Pupsta bets $0.50
JBC49 calls $0.50
Raff calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [7s Ah 4h 6c] [Qs]
Pupsta bets $0.50
JBC49 calls $0.50
Raff raises to $1
Pupsta calls $0.50
JBC49 calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***



FullTiltPoker Game #202150735: Table Marlin - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 23:39:43 ET - 2005/08/30
Seat 1: NUTTZZZ ($8.75)
Seat 4: vron ($3.85)
Seat 5: MaximumBenefit ($2.75)
Seat 7: Pupsta ($4.15)
Seat 8: burmabri ($31.75)
Seat 9: who wants sum ($4.75)
MaximumBenefit posts the small blind of $0.10
Pupsta posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Qs Ks]
burmabri folds
NUTTZZZ folds
vron calls $0.25
who wants sum stands up
MaximumBenefit calls $0.15
Pupsta raises to $0.50
vron calls $0.25
MaximumBenefit calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4s 8s 7d]
MaximumBenefit checks
Pupsta bets $0.25
vron calls $0.25
MaximumBenefit raises to $0.50
Pupsta has 15 seconds left to act
Pupsta calls $0.25
vron has 15 seconds left to act
vron calls $0.25
who wants sum sits down
*** TURN *** [4s 8s 7d] [Kh]
who wants sum adds $5
MaximumBenefit has 15 seconds left to act
MaximumBenefit bets $0.50
Pupsta raises to $1
vron calls $1
MaximumBenefit calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [4s 8s 7d Kh] [8c]
MaximumBenefit checks
Pupsta bets $0.50
vron raises to $1
MaximumBenefit calls $0.75, and is all in
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***



FullTiltPoker Game #202417021: Table Soaring Gulls - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 4:43:18 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 2: black_chip99 ($9.20)
Seat 3: bruanm ($3.50)
Seat 4: R-75 ($24.60)
Seat 5: Pupsta ($20.55)
Seat 7: gusball94 ($3.90)
Seat 8: JBC49 ($4.75)
Seat 9: BigBcustom ($29.05)
JBC49 posts the small blind of $0.10
BigBcustom posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ts Ad]
black_chip99 calls $0.25
bruanm folds
R-75 calls $0.25
Pupsta calls $0.25
gusball94 folds
JBC49 calls $0.15
BigBcustom checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc Ah]
JBC49 checks
BigBcustom checks
black_chip99 checks
R-75 bets $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
JBC49 folds
BigBcustom folds
black_chip99 folds
R-75 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [7c Jc Ah] [Jh]
R-75 checks
Pupsta bets $0.50
R-75 raises to $1
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [7c Jc Ah Jh] [9c]
R-75 bets $0.50
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***


i'll post results of these hands later if anyone cares to see.
No_Neck
you should really think about using a converter make it much neater
Pupsta
QUOTE (No_Neck)
you should really think about using a converter make it much neater


did you even bother reading my first paragraph?
guinevar
QUOTE (Pupsta)
QUOTE (No_Neck)
you should really think about using a converter make it much neater


did you even bother reading my first paragraph?


Yes, it contained this:

"(i don't know if converter works with FT yet, so i'm not going to try)"

Glad to see you put the effort in before you asked us to help you make money.
WonderfulSplash
I don't like the 3bet with AJo, other than that everything looks pretty standard.
Pupsta
QUOTE (guinevar)
QUOTE (Pupsta)
QUOTE (No_Neck)
you should really think about using a converter make it much neater


did you even bother reading my first paragraph?


Yes, it contained this:

"(i don't know if converter works with FT yet, so i'm not going to try)"

Glad to see you put the effort in before you asked us to help you make money.


i thought strat was the place to go to get away from the fucking assholes like yourself
Pupsta
QUOTE (WonderfulSplash)
I don't like the 3bet with AJo, other than that everything looks pretty standard.


my only justification for the 3bet was that the table was currently shorthanded, but i can see where it's bad...do you coldcall or fold?
Pupsta
hand that just hapened...is leading every street correct, or should i check/call this river?

FullTiltPoker Game #202710286: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 15:25:13 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: SaratogaRick ($4.75)
Seat 2: Pupsta ($5.85)
Seat 3: ice18w ($4.50)
Seat 4: scarycarrie ($9.75)
Seat 5: tjruk04 ($10.90)
Seat 6: You_Got_Chips ($0), is sitting out
Seat 7: ohioflash ($4.10)
Seat 8: Professor Zoom ($14.05)
Seat 9: STEVE777 ($8.10)
Professor Zoom posts the small blind of $0.10
STEVE777 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Js Jh]
SaratogaRick calls $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
ice18w folds
scarycarrie calls $0.50
tjruk04 calls $0.50
You_Got_Chips stands up
ohioflash calls $0.50
Professor Zoom folds
STEVE777 calls $0.25
SaratogaRick calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [9c 2c 4c]
STEVE777 checks
SaratogaRick checks
Pupsta bets $0.25
scarycarrie calls $0.25
tjruk04 folds
ohioflash calls $0.25
STEVE777 folds
SaratogaRick calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [9c 2c 4c] [Th]
SaratogaRick checks
Pupsta bets $0.50
scarycarrie calls $0.50
ohioflash calls $0.50
SaratogaRick folds
*** RIVER *** [9c 2c 4c Th] [9d]
Pupsta bets $0.50
scarycarrie raises to $1
ohioflash folds
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WonderfulSplash
QUOTE (Pupsta)
QUOTE (WonderfulSplash)
I don't like the 3bet with AJo, other than that everything looks pretty standard.


my only justification for the 3bet was that the table was currently shorthanded, but i can see where it's bad...do you coldcall or fold?


Usually fold depending on reads.
WonderfulSplash
QUOTE (Pupsta)
hand that just hapened...is leading every street correct, or should i check/call this river?


Definately lead the river. Just try not to get frustrated when he turns over J9o.
Pupsta
updated stats...100 hands, -84bb biggrin.gif

love the growing pains.

i need to get my vp$ip down, even though some of my games have been shorthanded, i know 24% is too high, and i know i've been running into some crappy rivers, but i also know i have a lot of room to grow here...thanks for the help so far splash...here's a couple more hands:

FullTiltPoker Game #202410192: Table Soaring Gulls - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 4:27:40 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: Dietch ($4.25)
Seat 2: black_chip99 ($14.05)
Seat 3: neb44 ($14.50)
Seat 4: R-75 ($14.85)
Seat 5: Pupsta ($15.15)
Seat 6: Bett D Maxx ($14.75)
Seat 8: Pay 2 See ($13.80)
Seat 9: BigBcustom ($30.80)
Bett D Maxx posts the small blind of $0.10
Pay 2 See posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ac Kc]
BigBcustom folds
Dietch folds
black_chip99 calls $0.25
neb44 calls $0.25
R-75 calls $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
Bett D Maxx folds
Pay 2 See folds
black_chip99 calls $0.25
neb44 calls $0.25
R-75 calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [6s 4c 4d]
black_chip99 checks
neb44 bets $0.25

what's my action?

FullTiltPoker Game #202413004: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 4:33:51 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: bruanm ($0.40)
Seat 2: stu1222 ($10)
Seat 3: portly ($10)
Seat 4: DGPerry ($16.50)
Seat 5: zbtwong13 ($6.95)
Seat 6: bumblebeetuna ($5.65)
Seat 7: Dissolved24 ($15.50)
Seat 8: Pupsta ($5)
Seat 9: Charginwapos ($5.25)
bumblebeetuna posts the small blind of $0.10
Dissolved24 posts the big blind of $0.25
portly posts $0.25
DGPerry posts $0.25
5 seconds left to act
stu1222 posts $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Td Qc]
Pupsta calls $0.25
Charginwapos folds
bruanm folds
stu1222 checks
portly checks
DGPerry checks
zbtwong13 calls $0.25
bumblebeetuna calls $0.15
Dissolved24 checks
*** FLOP *** [2d Qd 9s]
bumblebeetuna checks
Dissolved24 checks
Pupsta bets $0.25
stu1222 has 15 seconds left to act
stu1222 folds
portly folds
DGPerry folds
zbtwong13 calls $0.25
bumblebeetuna folds
Dissolved24 folds
*** TURN *** [2d Qd 9s] [8h]
Pupsta bets $0.50
zbtwong13 calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2d Qd 9s 8h] [7c]
Pupsta bets $0.50
zbtwong13 calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pupsta
this the way to play KT out of the blind?

FullTiltPoker Game #202737548: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 15:56:24 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 2: pocket r evil ($8.05)
Seat 3: CardMagicLV ($14.50)
Seat 4: scarycarrie ($8.15)
Seat 5: tjruk04 ($17.20)
Seat 6: wolverine_95 ($15.65)
Seat 7: Pupsta ($8.25)
Seat 8: Professor Zoom ($12.05)
Pupsta posts the small blind of $0.10
Professor Zoom posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Th Ks]
pocket r evil folds
CardMagicLV folds
pocket r evil stands up
scarycarrie folds
tjruk04 calls $0.25
wolverine_95 folds
Pupsta calls $0.15
Professor Zoom checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 3c Ts]
Pupsta bets $0.25
Professor Zoom folds
tjruk04 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Js 3c Ts] [9s]
Pupsta bets $0.50
tjruk04 calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Js 3c Ts 9s] [Jd]
Pupsta bets $0.50
tjruk04 calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pupsta
FullTiltPoker Game #202739839: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 15:59:01 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 3: CardMagicLV ($14)
Seat 4: scarycarrie ($7.80)
Seat 5: tjruk04 ($19.30)
Seat 6: wolverine_95 ($16.25)
Seat 7: Pupsta ($6.75)
Seat 8: Professor Zoom ($11.70)
tjruk04 posts the small blind of $0.10
wolverine_95 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ks Kc]
Pupsta raises to $0.50
Professor Zoom folds
CardMagicLV folds
scarycarrie calls $0.50
tjruk04 folds
wolverine_95 folds
*** FLOP *** [4s As Jd]
Pupsta bets $0.25
scarycarrie raises to $0.50

???
No_Neck
yeah yeah a guy made a mistake, sue me
No_Neck
without reads, I would call this down the hand with the kings, if he is tight though you might want to fold.
dms26
QUOTE (WonderfulSplash)
I don't like the 3bet with AJo, other than that everything looks pretty standard.


I didn't look at all the hands, but I definately agree with this one. Best case scenario the guy has 99 or TT raising UTG, unless he's a very LAG player.
dms26
QUOTE (Pupsta)
FullTiltPoker Game #202413004: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 4:33:51 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: bruanm ($0.40)
Seat 2: stu1222 ($10)
Seat 3: portly ($10)
Seat 4: DGPerry ($16.50)
Seat 5: zbtwong13 ($6.95)
Seat 6: bumblebeetuna ($5.65)
Seat 7: Dissolved24 ($15.50)
Seat 8: Pupsta ($5)
Seat 9: Charginwapos ($5.25)
bumblebeetuna posts the small blind of $0.10
Dissolved24 posts the big blind of $0.25
portly posts $0.25
DGPerry posts $0.25
5 seconds left to act
stu1222 posts $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Td Qc]
Pupsta calls $0.25
Charginwapos folds
bruanm folds
stu1222 checks
portly checks
DGPerry checks
zbtwong13 calls $0.25
bumblebeetuna calls $0.15
Dissolved24 checks
*** FLOP *** [2d Qd 9s]
bumblebeetuna checks
Dissolved24 checks
Pupsta bets $0.25
stu1222 has 15 seconds left to act
stu1222 folds
portly folds
DGPerry folds
zbtwong13 calls $0.25
bumblebeetuna folds
Dissolved24 folds
*** TURN *** [2d Qd 9s] [8h]
Pupsta bets $0.50
zbtwong13 calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2d Qd 9s 8h] [7c]
Pupsta bets $0.50
zbtwong13 calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***


I know it's overused, but fold preflop. QJo out of position is not a very good hand to me.
dms26
It looks like you might be limping with hands in early position that will get you in trouble with kicker problems like QT and QJ. That might also be why your VP$IP is a little high.
dms26
QUOTE (Pupsta)
this the way to play KT out of the blind?

FullTiltPoker Game #202737548: Table Ferrell - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 15:56:24 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 2: pocket r evil ($8.05)
Seat 3: CardMagicLV ($14.50)
Seat 4: scarycarrie ($8.15)
Seat 5: tjruk04 ($17.20)
Seat 6: wolverine_95 ($15.65)
Seat 7: Pupsta ($8.25)
Seat 8: Professor Zoom ($12.05)
Pupsta posts the small blind of $0.10
Professor Zoom posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Th Ks]
pocket r evil folds
CardMagicLV folds
pocket r evil stands up
scarycarrie folds
tjruk04 calls $0.25
wolverine_95 folds
Pupsta calls $0.15
Professor Zoom checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 3c Ts]
Pupsta bets $0.25
Professor Zoom folds
tjruk04 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Js 3c Ts] [9s]
Pupsta bets $0.50
tjruk04 calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Js 3c Ts 9s] [Jd]
Pupsta bets $0.50
tjruk04 calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***


Looks fine except I most likely check the river unless he has been calling down with middle pairs or unimproved pocket pairs. He probably has a J w/ a weak kicker and isn't going to fold it on the river if he called the flop and turn.
Pupsta
here's a hand...could i have saved bets if i lose/made bets if i win, or did i play it well?

FullTiltPoker Game #202879274: Table Maggie - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 18:26:49 ET - 2005/08/31
Seat 1: subterfuge1 ($7.75)
Seat 2: mastershake11 ($1.10), is sitting out
Seat 3: JRosemary ($45.40)
Seat 4: JBC49 ($6.45), is sitting out
Seat 5: UCRJed ($28.80)
Seat 6: Jeap ($3.60)
Seat 7: Ten Percentr ($13.50)
Seat 8: Pupsta ($11.60)
Seat 9: Psycoboy ($49.70)
subterfuge1 posts the small blind of $0.10
JRosemary posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pupsta [Ad Ks]
UCRJed folds
Jeap folds
Ten Percentr raises to $0.50
Pupsta raises to $0.75
Psycoboy folds
subterfuge1 folds
JRosemary folds
Ten Percentr raises to $1
Pupsta calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [2d 9c 4c]
Ten Percentr bets $0.25
Pupsta raises to $0.50
Ten Percentr raises to $0.75
Pupsta calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [2d 9c 4c] [Ac]
Ten Percentr bets $0.50
Pupsta raises to $1
Ten Percentr raises to $1.50
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2d 9c 4c Ac] [4s]
Ten Percentr bets $0.50
Pupsta calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbiscuit20
the last hand looks fine except i would just call the flop.
Pupsta
well, i made up a couple of the bb...finally, 2ndpair stopped hitting out on my toppair...after being 120bb in the hole, i'm ending the day at a total of -68bb, -4bb/100, since starting last night. still getting used to multitabling limit, still getting used to pokertracker...still need a helluva lot of help smile.gif i've read through sshe, but i don't own it, so i'm probably going to buy it and reread it...

out of curiosity, what's everyone's biggest winning hand/losing hand, both net and bb/hand?
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