Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:45 PM
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)
converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Ac], [Kh].
Hero raises, BB calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) [Ks], [As], [Ad]
(4 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (7.25 BB) [6d]
(3 players)
Hero checks,
MP bets, Hero calls, MP calls.
River: (19.25 BB) [5d]
(3 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.
Final Pot: 25.25 BB
Anyone play the flop faster?
akishore
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:47 PM
i think you should charge the royal flush draw the maximum. don't give him a free card to beat you!!
just kidding.
but anyway, it depends. what's your table image like, and how aggressive are these guys? will a flop three-bet actually make them slow down or will it make them believe that you're just bluffing?
aseem
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:49 PM
will a flop three-bet actually make them slow down or will it make them believe that you're just bluffing?
Not sure. Button's a player I normally stay from, TAA, MP I have like 3 hands on. I'm 99% certain that if MP checks, button bets this turn after calling two cold.
I think I might have gotten the flop capped here, but not sure if I get the same action on the turn.
Blink20
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:52 PM
Problem is, if you three bet, mp caps, then they have to face two bets cold again, that might make them run away.
But... they didn't leave to first two bets, so probably won't to next two. I would probably go ahead and bump it up again on flop, but I really have no good reason other than my mouse is stuck on the bet button when i play shorthanded limit
Actuary
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:55 PM
given yuo got max value on turn, it seems like it worked..but absent the turn action...I'd think you coulda played it for (edit) 4 more Small Bets..turn action biases me towards, yes..played perfect.
Mattnxtc
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:56 PM
thats how i woulda played it...i hate to get to aggressive on the flop and lose BB later on...turn and river are easy to play since they do most of the betting for you
guinevar
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 10:58 PM
You played it fine. There is no way the other players the the betting for you after you threebet the flop.
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:01 PM
I did cost myself $20 on the end, I think.
I almost never chat on Party, like once every three weeks, maybe, but for some stupid reason as I three-bet the river I chatted "we chopping AK?"
He said "****. No." and just called.
Good luck.
Jordan
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:02 PM
wtf did they have to do all that betting?
- Jordan
guinevar
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:04 PM
Haha.
That's definitely $20 burned.
Smash: "I have the mortal nuts, do you too?"
Other dude: "No...dangit. My kings SUCK."
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:04 PM
wtf did they have to do all that betting?
Button had KK, I assume MP had a missed flush draw. Which is a shame, really, I'm sure he was good for at least 2 more if he hit it.
Good luck.
Blink20
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:05 PM
MP had J 10 spades
Button had a King
Blink20
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:05 PM
ah KK
that's what i meant
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:06 PM
MP had J 10 spades
Button had a King
Close!
akishore
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:06 PM
hahaha, smash, that's really pretty dumb to say that in the chatbox. :-)
aseem
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:06 PM
hahaha, smash, that's really pretty dumb to say that in the chatbox.
Hence me ussually not chatting
guinevar
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:07 PM
I chat sometimes, but I don't normally say things that can be likened to "You can't possibly beat my hand." :wink:
Smasharoo
Monday, August 22nd, 2005, 11:09 PM
I really thought we were chopping.
Never entered my mind he wouldn't three-bet KK in position or that he'd overplay Ax here.
Mattnxtc
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 12:01 AM
i thought he was overplayin a lower boat...guess thats why i dont play 10/20 on party
mk
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 4:01 AM
yeah, button calling 2 cold tells me he's not going anywhere. i'd probably play it faster, hoping to get it capped on the flop.
RhinestoneCowboy
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 6:25 AM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
wtf did they have to do all that betting?
Button had KK, I assume MP had a missed flush draw. Which is a shame, really, I'm sure he was good for at least 2 more if he hit it.
Good luck.
Did he show?
Without a 3-bet on the flop I would've put him on Ace Rag.
The 3rd guy pretty obviously had the flush draw...
Smasharoo
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 6:33 AM
Did he show?
QUOTE
Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.
You get to see the hand when they call
RhinestoneCowboy
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 6:59 AM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
Did he show?
QUOTE
Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.
You get to see the hand when they call

I gotta lay off the drugs. And I have to read the whole thread next time, you said the same thing about the last of 3 betting preflop.
Next time Ill just say good hand and move on...
creepy20
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 7:40 AM
you just made more than twice my br on that hand...i hate you...oh and I don't 3-bet this flop....you want flush draws staying in to pay on the turn raises you are going to put in....... nh
Devilkin
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 9:21 AM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)
converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Ac], [Kh].
Hero raises, BB calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) [Ks], [As], [Ad]
(4 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (7.25 BB) [6d]
(3 players)
Hero checks,
MP bets, Hero calls, MP calls.
River: (19.25 BB) [5d]
(3 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.
Final Pot: 25.25 BB
Anyone play the flop faster?
I like the way you played the flop, thinking of it from the point of view of your opponent. If you call a raise, I'm putting you on two pair, maybe A-weak. Capping it just chases out everyone but the strongest hands (another Ax, Kings, or a straight/flush draw). I'm pretty comfortable in this situation, and I want everyone to tail along with me, so I'll wait until the turn and get my big bets in here.
Also keep in mind that you are in early position with an agressive bettor after you, so a check/raise on the turn is a strong possibility. If the situation is reversed and the agressor is behind me, I'll cap the flop to get the most money in when I can.
Oh, and I'm guessing QJs vs KK.
Dev
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.