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Smasharoo
10/20 six max, I have AdKd in the BB. Folded to C/O who raises, button three-bets, sb folds, I cap, call call.

Flop is 7d8cJc. C/O bets, button raises, I ....
Vade
You checked the flop out of the BB?

This is probably worth a three-bet to try to see the river for the cheapest amount possible...or its a fold
Smasharoo

You checked the flop out of the BB?


Yeah, sorry.

Planning to C/R. Not so sure about calling two cold here though. (or three-betting)

I folded, but I'm not sure how great that was.
TheIceman05
QUOTE (Smasharoo)

You checked the flop out of the BB?


Yeah, sorry.

Planning to C/R.  Not so sure about calling two cold here though. (or three-betting)

I folded, but I'm not sure how great that was.


Tough one. But I think you have to facing two cold here. You're not closing the action, which blows.

Ice
looshle
I'd muck it, it might get 3 bet and capped behind you. Your only really clean outs are runner runner straight or runner runner flush.

AJ, KJ, KQc, just way too scary.

Folding is probably the best option.



Say the CO bet, button called, you c/r, they both call. What's your line if the turn is a complete blank?
dimseven
Shouldn't this have been a bet-fold (to a 3 bet) and a bet-call to just a raise.
tdmlb24
fold
MLMarkland
I'd say it depends on your read of the situation. Sounds like you went with your gut so that's usually the best thing... if you felt like they were just maintaining their pre-flop aggression, then shoot back at them.
Sojuphan
Smash,

It's an easy fold, and you know it.
akishore
i want to study your flop line.

you check, CO bets, button calls, are you still raising now? or just calling closing the action?

you check, CO bets, button folds, i think this is a clear raise.

you check, CO checks, button bets... are you now raising to isolate or are you calling?

now the tricky part is when you check, CO bets and button raises. any reads on these guys?

aseem
Smasharoo

Smash,

It's an easy fold, and you know it.


I really don't think it's that easy, actually.

I'm getting 8 to 1 to call here, most of the time.
Sojuphan
QUOTE (Smasharoo)

Smash,

It's an easy fold, and you know it.


I really don't think it's that easy, actually.

I'm getting 8 to 1 to call here, most of the time.


Smash,

My view is that you have AK against a two other players calling a capped pot, you are probably behind them both. On the flop, you've completely missed and might have 6 outs - not including back door straights or flushes. I just think there's a better place to start cramming in money.
Smasharoo

My view is that you have AK against a two other players calling a capped pot, you are probably behind them both


This is almost never the case.

good luck.
MLMarkland
I think re-raising to try and get a free card is an acceptable play here as well.
jayboogie
It's pretty close between a call or fold. I think pretty much it's up to you whether you feel like gambling or not. If you want to gamble here, then call and peel 1 card and hope to improve, if not, make the laydown.

I don't see what re-raising the flop will do, the free card play out of position rarely if ever works.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Smasharoo)

Smash,

It's an easy fold, and you know it.


I really don't think it's that easy, actually.

I'm getting 8 to 1 to call here, most of the time.



i think if you were closing the acttion, or had position on teh two guys, I'd call, but being OOP blows here so i'd lean towards folding
dimseven
QUOTE (dimseven)
Shouldn't this have been a bet-fold (to a 3 bet) and a bet-call to just a raise.


Oops, didn't realize at the time that You would be getting 9.5-1 after a bet, a raise and a 3 bet. Still though, after You lead out and get raised and re-raised, then You *could* be facing someone with at least K-K.

I don't know, I don't get the check on the flop, after You capped it preflop.
wannabe
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
10/20 six max, I have AdKd in the BB. Folded to C/O who raises, button three-bets, sb folds, I cap, call call.

Flop is 7d8cJc. C/O bets, button raises, I ....



This is really shitty position in a capped pot against an aggressive button... I'm thinking button has AcQc and CO has something like TJ..

You are behind here, but have outs, and a ton of equity... Very tough call here... probably a break even play either way in the long run.. I probably fold in that spot also, but not sure how correct that is.
Smasharoo

i think if you were closing the acttion, or had position on teh two guys, I'd call, but being OOP blows here so i'd lean towards folding


Me too, I did.

I think it's close though, which is why I posted it.
dimseven
I never ask this, but I'm curious.

What did the other two have?
shpaget
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
10/20 six max, I have AdKd in the BB. Folded to C/O who raises, button three-bets, sb folds, I cap, call call.

Flop is 7d8cJc. C/O bets, button raises, I ....


If I think about it, most times I'd fold here, but a three bet might be viable (and it was my first reaction - so, based on that, I have to think that I would have raised).

is 9T a likely hand here? I doubt it.
TJ? JQ? AJ?
AcKc could be. I'm putting one of them on a club draw.
Could anyone have a set? I think doubtful, though with the club draw on board a guy with JJ may not be inclined to slow play - I just don't see 77 or 88 as likely hands.

QQ is likely. TT perhaps...99, getting marginal.

A three bet probably doesn't gain you any information - by that point the pot is so large, you'll get called, or even capped....but your check raise may get you a free card on fourth street.

You're probably behind ONE of the two hands, with 6-7 outs (2 of your outs are clubs, but give yourself two outs for bd flush draw and maybe one for bd broadway).

This hand can get scary and expensive with the right turn, but I think the implied odds here more than pay off the odds of hitting your hand. At the same time, there are lots of turn/river cards where it will be a very easy c/f.

Of course, I could also be an idiot just asking to give his money away.
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