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econ_tim
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Preflop: econ_tim is CO with [3d], [Tc]. econ_tim posts a blind of $1.
4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) [Qc], [Kd], [Jh] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, econ_tim calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) [Kh] (3 players)
SB bets, econ_tim folds ...
Sysvr4
Not sure Isap means, but I'll give it a shot anyway...

PT says I steal 30-40% of the time. I think T3o is very firmly in the 60-70% of the hands I wouldn't steal with.

Since you did though, I suppose you're wondering about the flop call. I think it's marginal but not terrible. Rainbow flop helps, but I hate drawing to a non-nut straight on half your OESD. Still, I don't think I'd play it differently (other than PF).

Jeff
econ_tim
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
PT says I steal 30-40% of the time.  I think T3o is very firmly in the 60-70% of the hands I wouldn't steal with.


I don't normally steal with T3o, but if I post in the CO and it is folded to me, I'm raising almost every time.
WonderfulSplash
I make this raise to if its folded over, nh.
Sysvr4
QUOTE (econ_tim)
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
PT says I steal 30-40% of the time. I think T3o is very firmly in the 60-70% of the hands I wouldn't steal with.


I don't normally steal with T3o, but if I post in the CO and it is folded to me, I'm raising almost every time.


I see your point, but it appears that by posting you should be even LESS likely to make the steal attempt. This is because your opponents in the blinds have greater odds to call thanks to your post. Just a thought.

Jeff
econ_tim
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
I see your point, but it appears that by posting you should be even LESS likely to make the steal attempt. This is because your opponents in the blinds have greater odds to call thanks to your post. Just a thought.


they're getting the same odds either way
wrto4556
nice hand
screech
If a blank falls on the turn, are you still folding if the action is the same?
Sysvr4
QUOTE (econ_tim)
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
I see your point, but it appears that by posting you should be even LESS likely to make the steal attempt. This is because your opponents in the blinds have greater odds to call thanks to your post. Just a thought.


they're getting the same odds either way


What am I missing then:

a) You don't post, but you're in the CO and steal

1.5 SB in the blinds
+2.0 SB your raise
-------
3.5 to 1 for the BB to call

cool.gif You post and steal in the CO

1.5 SB in the blinds
1.0 SB your post
2.0 SB your raise
------
4.5 to 1 for BB to call

Did I screw up or is that not the same?

Jeff
TheMathProf
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
QUOTE (econ_tim)
QUOTE (Sysvr4)
I see your point, but it appears that by posting you should be even LESS likely to make the steal attempt. This is because your opponents in the blinds have greater odds to call thanks to your post. Just a thought.


they're getting the same odds either way


What am I missing then:

a) You don't post, but you're in the CO and steal

1.5 SB in the blinds
+2.0 SB your raise
-------
3.5 to 1 for the BB to call

cool.gif You post and steal in the CO

1.5 SB in the blinds
1.0 SB your post
1.0 SB your raise
------
3.5 to 1 for BB to call

Did I screw up or is that not the same?

Jeff


FYP.

The posted bet is a bet that gives the poster the option to check their hand (if it hasn't yet been raised) or to raise themselves. But they've in essence called the Big Blind before they've seen the cards.
Sysvr4
QUOTE
FYP.

The posted bet is a bet that gives the poster the option to check their hand (if it hasn't yet been raised) or to raise themselves. But they've in essence called the Big Blind before they've seen the cards.


Ah yes, got it now. Thanks.

Jeff
amarillotg
good hand.

first one in, i raise the in the CO after posting almost every time.

i play the hand the exact same.
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