akishore
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 1:02 AM
$5/$10 omaha hi/lo, ten-handed
i'm MP2 with A

Q

10

2

.
one EP limper, i limp, CO limps, BB checks. (rest of table folds.)
(4 SB) A

K

10
BB bets, EP calls, i raise, CO folds, BB calls, EP calls.
(5 BB) 5
BB checks, EP checks, i check.
(5 BB) A
BB bets, EP folds, i call.
how good/bad are my:
- flop raise
- turn check
- river call
aseem
offset
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 1:47 AM
Keeping in mind that you are probably ten times better at omaha hi/lo than I, I think the flop raise and turn check are fairly standard. I would probably raise the river with the second nut high seeing as he likely would not reraise a set on that flop.
Rocketwadster
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 4:28 AM
Flop raise...could go either way. You made the CO fold (most likely) with it.
Turn check - i dislike totally. Anyone with a low draw just got a free chance to win half the pot.
River call - not sure why you didn't raise there. I can see many hands calling you there that you can beat (aces full of two's, aces full of fives, an underfull, etc.)
Care to elaborate...? :?
akishore
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 9:42 AM
i think the flop raise is standard. even if i'm up against a straight, i'm a favorite to tie or draw out (3 outs to tie, 13 outs to draw out).
BUT, if i'm up against A-K-x-x or a set, then the only thing i have going for me is the gutshot and the flush draw, and while both leave me vulnerable to the board pairing (not filling ME up) on the river, the gutshot especially leaves me likely to just get half the pot.
so, figuring that, i debated on the turn and decided to take the free card, because now i'm behind to all of the above (a straight, a better two pair or a set) and i should play it just like i would play a flush draw in hold 'em in this type of situation (raise the flop for value and take a free card on the turn).
so, while i agree that i have any low draw a free card for half the pot, i wasn't thinking along the lines of "i need to protect my hand", i was thinking more along the lines of "i am quite often an underdog drawing to the nuts, so i better take the free card."
is that right?
anyway, as for the river, i estimated it's pretty much 50/50 between the bettor having A-K-x-x and something like K-K-x-x / 10-10-x-x (because of card frequency, right?). sure, sometimes i'm up against A-5-x-x or even Q-J-x-x (straight), but i thought those were considerably less likely.
since i would get three-bet if i raise and i'm up against A-K-x-x but just a call against the latter hands, i need to be good 2/3 of the time, which i estimated i wasn't.
so, with the second-nuts, i figured a flat-call was best.
is that right too?
aseem