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yahaw
I was playing a MMT live tourny tonight, I was on BB with K4 os, 2 limpers sb completes.

flop was K93, 2 spades, sb checks, I bet out 400 ( blinds were 100-200) so pot was already 800.

UTG+1 folds, loose player with (big stack) calls, sb folds.

Turn is a blank I bet out 800, thinking he was on a draw and altho he was pretty loose, he might fold.....he calls.....

river is the Q of spades,well not a great card, and i'm thinking what can I beat if he was on a draw?

So I check, he bets 500, hmmmmm..... now what? players was loose , yet I didnt think he was smart enough to make a (I want you to call bet) ..

My read said fold, my pot odds said call...

what the right play???????
BeanGW
Stack sizes would be most helpful.

But I think I might bet bigger on the flop, and slowdown to check/call or check/fold mode thereafter. If he's on a draw, I'll let him make his bad decision by calling an overbet on the flop.
yahaw
QUOTE (BeanGW)
Stack sizes would be most helpful.

But I think I might bet bigger on the flop, and slowdown to check/call or check/fold mode thereafter.   If he's on a draw, I'll let him make his bad decision by calling an overbet on the flop.


I had to bet into 3 players with top pair and a bad kicker , it was more i WANT TO SEE WHERE I'M AT BET.....

I coulda went all in and if loose big stack was on a flush draw i'm sure he woulda called after the flop.

not 100% sure of our stacks, I had about 3500 and he had about 5500.

just a rough estimate though....
PrtyPSux
looks like a weak bluff to me... maybe 50/50 A9 or two spades.

I make the call. If u fold u now have a crappy M and basically have to push/fold PF, if u call and lose ur in a very slightly worse situation, if u call and win u are in a way better situation. looks like a good reward for your risk.


[edit] live you probably couldve gotten more reads other than just betting patterns.. It shouldnt have been to hard to know if he hit or missed.
BeanGW
QUOTE (yahaw)
I had to bet into 3 players with top pair and a bad kicker , it was more i WANT TO SEE WHERE I'M AT BET.....


That's OK and with multiple villains perfectly understandable. But what did you learn from your bet? Were you sure he's on a draw? Could he have had a better King than you and not raise? Could he have had a monster and wants you to keep betting into him?

If you start with 3500, then after betting the turn you've got 1/3 of your stack committed to this hand. Is it worth it?
yahaw
bean wrote:
That's OK and with multiple villains perfectly understandable. But what did you learn from your bet? Were you sure he's on a draw? Could he have had a better King than you and not raise? Could he have had a monster and wants you to keep betting into him?

If you start with 3500, then after betting the turn you've got 1/3 of your stack committed to this hand. Is it worth it?
yahaw wrote:
Player was very loose,and very poor player..he kept calling out of turn, I told him he had to wait his turn on 1 hand and he asked, whats the difference? If he had a king he woulda just called me down, any draw he woulda called me down...

I had played with this player the whole night (about 3 hours)so I had a good read on him.

I later got involved in a pot with him I had 8 10 in my BB limped pot flop was 10 10 J,I bet out 500 he called, turn was a3 I checked he bet out 200 I hesitated and just called him .

(I was pretty sure he would bet the river)

river was a 9, I checked again he bet 600, I hestated quite a while and said all-in for 2600 more he called with A9..
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