justblaze
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:06 PM
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed)
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villain is 14/10/1.91 through 342, no specific reads as hands were datamined.
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [Jh], [Kh]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (5.40 SB) [4h], [Th], [Kc]
(2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (5.70 BB) [Qd]
(2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (7.70 BB) [Qc]
(2 players)
BB bets, Hero ...
Final Pot: 8.70 BB
wrto4556
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:12 PM
you missed a raise preflop.
I call the river, too. KKQQJ just counterfeited KKTTQ.
justblaze
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:18 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
you missed a raise preflop.
I call the river, too. KKQQJ just counterfeited KKTTQ.
KJ is killing me lately.
Egarim
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:39 PM
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image (2bb's gives u plenty of raisng equity). If u have a loose img then limping is ok.
I think u should cap the flop and try to keep control of the hand. If he bets out on the turn then just call. The pot is too large to fold on this river
justblaze
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:41 PM
QUOTE (Egarim)
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image (2bb's gives u plenty of raisng equity). If u have a loose img then limping is ok.
I think u should cap the flop and try to keep control of the hand. If he bets out on the turn then just call. The pot is too large to fold on this river
but what can i beat? i dont think hes raising with KJ or K10 from there.
wrto4556
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:42 PM
QUOTE (Egarim)
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image
keep lurking
justblaze
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:44 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
QUOTE (Egarim)
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image
keep lurking
lol. but seriously, you have K10 in his range there?
wrto4556
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 3:50 PM
probably not.
I think call/call/call would be an OK line.
KDawgCometh
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 5:04 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
QUOTE (Egarim)
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image
keep lurking
egarim, do you see why?
Mattnxtc
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 5:09 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
QUOTE (Egarim)
KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image
keep lurking
haha yes...justblaze often gets accused of playing to tight and passive
jayboogie
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 6:06 PM
I think if your going to raise this flop, you don't call it down, otherwise call it down. If your raising for information here, you got it, he probably can beat kings with a jack kicker. The reason why I don't like raising is you lose more bets with the worst hand and make probably less bets when you have the best hand here as many hands like QQ will fold here if aggression is shown, but if you just call, they may bet the entire way through.
Egarim
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 6:55 PM
Cap the flop because ur actually a small favorite if ur outkicked and 3% dog vs aces. Also, u may buy urself a free card on the turn to catch ur flush or 2pair. Capping the flop gives u more options and more equity imo.
Jayboogie says many hands like qq will fold to aggression here... if he 3bets then he's stupid and is obviously not going to fold his q's. In this case if you're behind its by a very small margin so ur not losing much by putting in that extra sb. However, it can give u a free card and control of the hand (he may think u hit a set, 2pair, or the turn can bring a scare card and make him check).
jayboogie
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 7:35 PM
I didn't notice the flush draw along with the pair, but this hand doesn't play too differently. There's probably several ways to play it and I don't think you can go too wrong either way. You could just call it all the way down unless you improve, letting a weaker hand bet for you or you can raise the flop too, I think if 3 bet, capping is good if you think you'll get a cheaper showdown UI.
It's a pretty close decision on what to do on the flop and it depends on your opponent's tendencies to decide which route to go. Again, I don't think you can go wrong really on this hand.
I'd have raised this pre-flop and you'd probably have a better indication of how strong your opponent is if you had raised pre-flop.
Egarim
Thursday, August 11th, 2005, 9:23 PM
QUOTE (jayboogie)
I didn't notice the flush draw along with the pair, but this hand doesn't play too differently. There's probably several ways to play it and I don't think you can go too wrong either way. You could just call it all the way down unless you improve, letting a weaker hand bet for you or you can raise the flop too, I think if 3 bet, capping is good if you think you'll get a cheaper showdown UI.
It's a pretty close decision on what to do on the flop and it depends on your opponent's tendencies to decide which route to go. Again, I don't think you can go wrong really on this hand.
I'd have raised this pre-flop and you'd probably have a better indication of how strong your opponent is if you had raised pre-flop.
This post sounds more rational than the last one

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