A couple of my buddies and I went down to Atl. city this weekend. I started off very well playing roulette. Going into sunday I was already up about 2000 just from roulette. At 2 I played in a very inexpensive tourney at the Sands. Buy in was 60 + 20 with addons and rebuys for the first hour. I made it down to 6 left without ever rebuying or adding on. My chips start to dwindle a bit. Im in 5th position, and first to act goes all in, the girl beside him called, and the girl beside her called as well. I had AK suited in my hand, and I push as well. The only person that had any money left after this was the first girl who called, she had about 25,000 left, and blinds were at 5 10 thousand. Anyways, flop comes 234 and turn is a 10. I knew I was beat, so I was praying for a 5. River brings a five, making my wheel. I knew someone had to have another ace, but I was still extremely happy. Everyone flips the cards. The fat guy has A10, girl has AJ, next girl has AQ, and I have AK. If this 5 wouldnt have dropped I wouldve been the commanding chip leader and most likely wouldve taken 1st at about $4,800. That might not seem like much to most of you, but I went down there with 400 bucks, so it is a nice chunk of change for me. Anyways the 6 of us decide to split the winnings, and I take 1500, but if that 5 wouldnt have hit, I would be sitting pretty right about now, hell I would probably still be down there

First, I'll give the short version of the OP.

He's down to final 6 of a tourney with a small chipstack.

He's dealth AKs in the CO.

UTG pushes, UTG+1 calls (with chips remaining), someone else calls all-in, and the OP pushes.

OP loses pot.

I think this is an easy fold preflop. There's an excellent chance that someone will be eliminated on this hand, and that will put you one spot higher in the money. Even better, two players could go out at once and you move up two spots for free.

That sucks.

No offense, but for future reference this post belongs in either General or Tournaments. There is really no reason to post it in the Strategy section.

Tough beat though.

Ok, there's something that belongs in strategy. I agree with Tim. Drop the hand preflop.

you got very lucky actually so dont complain...with 3 people pushing allin in front of you...u are very lucky that somebody didnt have a high pocket pair...why would u risk the chance to move up 2 spots by putting all ur money in against 3 others? should have been an easy fold and hope to move up 1 or 2 spots on the payscale...

well i just posted it, didnt mean to put it in the strategy section. First of all, I was getting low stacked and it was the best hand I had seen since I had been at the table, it wouldve been stupid to fold here because I wouldve barely had enough chips to cover the small and big blind. So explain again y this is a fold??? I think that is totally wrong. I wanted to win the tourney, not pick up a measely 3 hundred some dollars for sitting there hungover for 6 hours. Two of these all ins were from people who were super aggressive since the first hand of the final table. I was playing great all day, and I made the right decision, which is pushing your money in with the best hand, or is that not how you play the game these days econ-tim????????

when did i really complain man??????? i didnt, i posted it to tell the story, it was the first tourney i ever played in Atl. City, i was the only person left when 15 were still playing that never rebought or added on, and i felt like i played great poker. i post the story to explain the hand, because it was a crazy hand, and everyone has something bad to say about it. at the time the play seemed right, getting low on chips, was catching cold cards all final table, this was my chance to bring my chip stack back. if you tell me you are going to lay this down with the possibility of all three of these people maybe splitting the pot or only one getting knocked out your lying. the position i was in was real tough, and i guarantee the people who are saying this is an easy laydown have no clue because you werent there in the position, or you like to just weasel your way to 5th place in a tourney of this size and grab an extra 170 bucks or so, when you had the perfect chance to double or triple up and possibly win it. I put it in with the best hand and it didnt work out, i dont think it was a bad call at all

I think that adding the stack sizes of the players at the table in the original post would have helped. The line quoted above is a key piece of info in how to play the hand.

So with blinds at 5,000/10,000 - you barely have over 15,000 chips. In this case, I agree with your call if you're playing for first.

One question, if the 5 didn't drop, it seems like the A10 guy would have won the main pot - I'm assuming that your AK would have won the side pot which must have been substantial.

I was going to post again about that but I am at work and got busy for a while, it was a 10 that hit the turn, but the fat guy had A9, I accidentally put down A10 for his hand. Besides the hand, there was a girl that was at the final table with me, who won it the week before, who was pretty amazing. I talked to her a lot after the tourney ended. We both liked each others style, but she definitely proved to me that women should not be taken lightly at the poker table. She was by far my hardest competition.

1.5 BB + AK = all in, all day, no exceptions except the bubble. If you were already in the money, this is an easy push. On the bubble, easy fold.

I still think it really depends on the pay structure. If there is a large difference between 6th and 4th, then folding seems prudent. Even if you quadruple up your stack will still be short compared to the big blind. The tourney sounds like a crap shoot at this point.

did i miss the fact that A10 would have won the pot?


or was he super short stacked?

already explained this earlier