Hand 1:

Villian was 24/14/2.50 after 51 hands.


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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [9c], [Tc].
4 folds, Hero calls.

PF raise ok?

Flop: (7 SB) [7s], [5s], [6d] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Raise to take control of this hand and maybe set up a free card?

Turn: (4.50 BB) [3s] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Standard turn right?

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

Hand 2:

No reads.

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[b]Preflop: Hero is SB with [Kd], [Jd]. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

I know, I know, bad call. What if there were more people in the pot?

Flop: (7 SB) [Tc], [8c], [5s] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [5c] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.

Seem standard enough?

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

Sorry to ask a total newb question, but can
anyone tell me what these #'s mean?

These are Pokertracker stats:

VPIP/PFRaise%/Aggression factor

The first number is the percentage of the time the player puts money in the pot, pre-flop. The second one is the percentage of the time the player raises pre-flop and the final one is the post-flop agression factor. I think it is the number of bets and raises divided by the number of calls post-flop.

All Pokertracker stuff.

In hand one your PF raise is marginal at best. You've got suited connectors that play better in multi-way pots. I think it's better to limp. Maybe trying to steal from the Button with 10-9 suited would be OK, but I don't like the raise from MP. I suppose it depends heavily on the table, but if this villain is any indication of the norm, I'm not sure I could pull it off.

As for the flop, with villains Agg factor I dunno if raising for a free card is a great idea... it would be pretty lousy if he three-bets you here. I think you just play the pot odds of the gutshot and discount your over outs, and it's a close call. However, if he's got a hand like K-Q offsuit, raising might put you in a better position to take the pot down with a bet on the turn. Hard to say for sure.

On the turn, I think the fold is standard. The pot is just barely paying you right here if he has A-K... and if he has J-J or better, you aren't getting close to the right odds.

Hand two: Fold PF, fold the flop, fold the turn.

Hand 1 :

I fold pre-flop, fold the flop, fold the turn. The guy 3-bets and you called him. What can he thinks you have? With flopped small cards, he's not going away. A hand like that needs people in it to play. You tried a play, didn't work, fold the flop at least. Obviously you can't beat anything unless you spike your gutshot.

Hand 2 :

A raise from MP1 is strenght obviously. KJ is more often than not dominated, I'd fold. With no diamond or straight possibility on the flop it is an easy fold too. You think your K and J outs are good often enough to justify a call?

Hand 1: fold or call preflop. Do NOT raise. You need callers to make this drawing hand pay off. Now that you've raised PF, you should fold the flop. You dont have odds to chase a gutshot.

Hand 2: What's the flop call for? The flop missed you completely. There's a flush draw on the board, and a J completes a straight so you only have 2 kings as clean outs. Fold it. You're not best now, and you're not drawing to a best hand. The pot is not large enough to warrant sticking around with just 2 weak overs.

Dont take this the wrong way, but you seem like you'd call any bet on the flop. Your actions need to have a purpose. Calling is fine when you want to encourage action from weaker hands on later streets. It's great when you're drawing to a strong hand and you have the odds to call. What's the purpose of your flop call in hand 2?

What is everyone's minimum raising requirement for three off the button? I think JTs is an easy raise here, so can T9s really be that bad?

On the flop I have to give myself at least 5 outs (he definetly raises here with Ak). What makes the call unacceptable?

Hand 2 is terrible I know. The pot is large, and my overcards have to be worth something along with my backdoor straight draws...Is peeling one of here really that bad?

My minimum raising requirements are a good bit stricter for MP than the CO or Button. Because they vary with table and villain style, I won't go into details, but I would rarely raise J-T suited from MP. Honestly, IMHO, it's a good hand to go multi-way, and the equity edge isn't there often enough to justify a raise.

I agreed with calling the flop in hand one. You've got the odds there.

Hand two I just hate. The pot is not large... I dunno why you think it is. You shouldn't have called PF, and you should still get out on the flop.

It's simple as this,

you're not going into the flop ahead of anyone who calls your raise, so why bother? This is limit poker. The way to make a profit with suited connectors is to see cheap flops, hope for a nice draw, fold with minimal loss if you miss, or play your draw if the pot odds justify it (they often will in limit). By raising you're decreasing your pot odds, and increasing the chance that everyone coming into the pot is ahead of you. You're also decreasing the number of customers you will have to pay you off if you hit your draws thereby decreasing your implied pot odds. When you make your straight or flush YOU WANT CUSTOMERS. The more people in there, the more chances for someone to hit their 2 pair or set, think it's good, and build your bankroll.

I think that's nuff said

-Wallacer

Don't raise with a hand like 9-10 from MP. Its a hand where you WANT alot of people to come in and play with you. You don't want to play it heads up, so limp and hope it opens up the doors for everybody else to come in as well.

I got no problem taking one off on the first hand, but I'm putting the PF 3 bettor on a big pair, and an 8 would surley kill your action. I might not even make this call myself.

On the seccond hand, I probably wouldn't even take one off with KJ. you could hit and still not be good. You gotta have patience. I don't know how many times people took one off against my made straight or set etc. and thought they were gold and just bet off their money to me.

Play a little tighter, and make sure to limp with hands that love multi way action, and raise with hands... that don't. KJ isnt very strong. Save that hand for when your on the button and a LP limper open limped.

Yeah, I guess my raise with T9s was pretty bad.
How would you guys rate the options here from MP3 with no limpers?

fold>call>raise?
call>fold>raise?


Also, I thought blind stealing from the cutoff with JTs was a pretty standard play. Beans says he only uses it rarely. What's everyone elses feelings on this move?