Sorry about format, I just could not get the converter to work.

$25 NL on Paradise
I have $92
Villan has $64

A couple of limpers including the Villan, I am on the button and limp with a pair of jacks, Sb and BB complete.

Flop is ACE, 10, Jack (rainbow)
Player bets .25
Villan raises to .75
I raise to $2.00
All fold to Villan who calls.

Turn is a 4

Villan checks
I bet $5.00
Villan goes All In.

I call his bet hoping he has 2 pair or AK. I figure if he has made his straight, I still have outs by pairing the board or catching a 4th jack.

He had KQ and I did not improve. :cry:

Thoughts?
How do you guys play this one?

This is my first critique of someone else's play, usually mine are being torn apart, so feel free to fire back.

1. Why let the two guys limp in in front of you? I personally don't want my pocket jacks playing against marginal hands like K10 Q9, and with the two blinds ahead of you you're almost guaranteed to be pitting your pocket j's against 4 other hands in total. I'd personally overbet the pot there hoping to pick up the blinds, and if not, isolate a hand like Aq KJ or whatever. In this situation he flops the nut straight while you make your set, but it happens.

Other than that, I believe it just comes down to your read on the guy after the 4 fell and he pushed all in (the $2 flop and $5 turn bets seem appropriate to me). You'll find a lot of guys in the $25NL game who'll go all in with A10 or even Ak in that situation, so it can be difficult to give him credit for flopping the straight or having rockets....

You have to raise with jacks here everytime. I don't know if you were trying to slowplay but JJ doesn't play that well in multiway pots. Slim the field down with a 3-5xBB raise then go from there.

As for the flop and turn, the stop and go all-in by the villian screams KQ and with stacks sizes this big I would probably fold without a read.



P.S. Don't post results.

Yea, most time I will raise pre flop with jacks but you have to mix it up sometimes.
This time I limped with them.

He probably would have called a preflop raise and in the end I probably would have made the same mistake.

You don't know that, and even if you can make that assumption, it's still a bad argument to make.

Let's say you're trying to mix up your game and you limp from the Button w/ JJ, thus letting the BB in for free w/ 64 off and the flop comes 649 rainbow. Now you've painted yourself into a corner 'cause that board is in no way coordinated, and you've got an overpair which you have to assume is good, but you're gonna lose signifigant money every time you do this. In your original post the results MAY have been the same if you raised, but raising eliminates the possibility of a hand like I illustrated. I'm all for mixing up your game, but limping w/ JJ from the button should not be an option.

Also I know it's super-difficult to get away from the hand when you've flopped a set, but his raise from $5 to $64 should have told you he flopped to a straight. I guess I can't say this categorically, but he's not likely to make that huge of a raise with a hand you can beat like top pair, or even two pair...

Wrong. Nobody pays attention at those stakes. Keep raising them on the button in an unraised pot. Yeah, without the read that he has a straight, I'm probably losing a ton here too. You did the right thing and lost. It happens.

I am on the button and limp with a pair of jacks,

thats where I stopped reading

Limping with jacks on the button is catastrophically bad. Not just sorta bad or kinda bad... it's catastrophically bad. Raise that AT LEAST 4x + 1 more BB for every limper, if not more.

Not flaming... just trying to let you know the seriousness of the situation.

My first thought was KQ when you showed the flop and the flop action... but don't post results.

Just to be clear: from the details... you've shown that he made a check-raise up to $61.50 over your $5 bet at an $13-ish pot, right? Not saying I would have been able to lay it down, but that's a collosal overbet. But I'd have reasoned KQ would have raised preflop, therefore nobody has KQ, and called.