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akishore
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relevant stacks

MP1 ($33.70)
[b]MP3 ($10)

Hero ($32.90)

[b]Preflop:
Hero is BB with 7:heart:, 3:spade:, 9:diamond:, A:spade:. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.7) 4:diamond:, 9:spade:, 2:diamond: (7 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.7, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $1.70, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.70, SB folds.

Turn: ($6.55) 5:heart: (3 players)
Hero bets $6.55, MP1 calls $6.55, MP3 folds.

River: ($19) 3:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $19, Hero ___.



was my river check correct, or should i have put in a blocker bet and folded to a big raise? (not sure if this is a good line since a lot of donks might put in a big raise with just a high hand but make only a small value bet with the same hand if checked to...)

after i checked and villian bet pot, am i calling or folding?

aseem
akishore
bump.

aseem
Chiggleslap
The river check was what put you to the tough decision. I'd "blocker bet" like you said and fold if he came over the top. That's a risky play, too, but still better than the check. As soon as you checked the river, it's just a guessing game at that point, and you're almost just giving up the pot.

He bet the pot, however, which screams that he doesn't want a call. If he's a good player and knows that you're a good player, he may be overbetting to sell a bluff. Or he could just be one of those guys who jams the pot every time he makes his hand and doesn't think much about extracting chips from his opponents.

So, is he trying to exploit your weak check on the river and push you out of the pot or is this someone who would bet that big with a made hand after you checked the river to him?

You bet the river here and there's not as tough of a decision to make.

I think you probably folded as a punishment to yourself for checking the river. Lesson learned.
rivercardbandit
I understand the term "blocker bet", but I'm wondering how much would the blocker bet be? 1/2 the pot?
Chiggleslap
QUOTE (rivercardbandit)
I understand the term "blocker bet", but I'm wondering how much would the blocker bet be?  1/2 the pot?


"Blocker bet" doesn't imply a specific amount. It's going to depend on your opponent what size your "blocker bet" should be for it to work effectively. The idea is to bet as little as possible while still selling strength so that your opponent will only come over the top if they have you beat. I know, this is a pretty vague response, but nobody said this was going to be easy.
XXEddie
hero folds
Jubba
It would seriously depend on my read of the opponent. It looks to me like he may have made his flush on the river. w/ 4 wheel cards out there, its likely that you're going to be getting quartered for the low and his flush will take the high.

It sucks but I would probably fold in this situation.
DCWildcat
QUOTE (XXEddie)
hero folds
akishore
so, i took up a good chunk of my time bank on this one.

i think it might be a fold, but the pot bet just seemed so suspicious, like he didn't want a call.

i think i was being stubborn, and it was probably a mistake, but i ended up calling and won the half. he had the nut flush, but no other wheel card, so i got the low.

aseem
mk
Interesting hand. I'm probably folding absent a read. Probability of getting quartered is so high.

Dude probably made you rich later if he's calling your pot sized bets on the flop and turn with only a flush draw.
....Ian....
may be a stupid question....but....

arent you guranteed the nut low? and are you only considering folding because you may get quartered?
mk
may be a stupid question....but....

arent you guranteed the nut low? and are you only considering folding because you may get quartered?


yes and yes. A5-A2 chops low with us.
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