ok, first of all, why wont HH converter work for my histories? its cutting out any action except folds. is there a formatting thing i dont know about? anyways, villain is 36/14/1.88 through 200ish hands.

***** Hand History for Game 2451002462 *****
$3/$6 Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 30, 20:24:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 32582 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: grossman144 ( $171.61 )
Seat 3: woodyman4916 ( $84.18 )
Seat 5: foldequity ( $297 )
Seat 1: fcpcustom ( $191.50 )
Seat 4: llemac2000 ( $47.75 )
Seat 9: tomspode ( $160 )
Seat 8: NecroMancerX ( $78 )
Seat 7: Chungst ( $266 )
Seat 10: Cachin33 ( $163 )
Seat 6: youngho ( $133.50 )
llemac2000 posts small blind [$1].
foldequity posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to foldequity [ 8d 9c ]
youngho folds.
Chungst folds.
NecroMancerX folds.
tomspode raises [$6].
Cachin33 folds.
fcpcustom folds.
grossman144 folds.
>You have options at Table 32735 Table!.
woodyman4916 folds.
llemac2000 calls [$5].
foldequity calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 3c, 2d ]
llemac2000 checks.
foldequity checks.
tomspode bets [$3].
llemac2000 folds.
foldequity calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
>You have options at Table 32735 Table!.
foldequity bets [$6].
tomspode raises [$12].
foldequity raises [$12].
tomspode calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
foldequity bets [$6].
tomspode calls [$6].

You have to delte "Texas" from the HH.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: justblaze is BB with [8d], [9c].
3 folds, SB calls, justblaze calls.

Flop: (6 SB) [2c], [3c], [2d] (3 players)
SB checks, justblaze checks, MP1 bets, SB folds, justblaze calls.

Turn: (4 BB) [8c] (2 players)
justblaze bets, MP1 calls.

River: (10 BB) [5d] (2 players)
justblaze bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

This isn't a hand that I defend with, but I don't play 3/6.

How is the rake there? That would be my first concern about defending with this hand.

But I think your cards are likely to be live and you'll have decent postflop visibility, so you could probably defend with this even against tighter opponents.

The rake is fine. They take $3 out of every pot over, like, $60. That's one big blind/small bet.

I think it was the flop call that I didn't like, not the preflop call.

Edit - This isn't a blind defense situation. MP1 isn't stealing your blind.

he's not stealing your blind from MP1 usually...

why would you defend with 98o?

aseem

i also don't like the turn three-bet...

the way he's playing just screams overpair.

1.88 isn't particularly overaggressive, either.

aseem

this is crap everywhich way. No MP1 is "stealing" any blinds, so therefore don't defend with this crap. I hate the floater on the flop and the gaybet on the turn when you hit one of your cards. basically this hand blows

My thinking is that the PF call is borderline but ok.

By my calculations, you're about 9.4% to flop top pair, 3.7% to flop two pair or better, 1.3% to flop a str8, and 3.3% to flop a 2-way str8 draw and have it get there. For a total of about 17.7%, or slightly better than the 5-1 the pot is laying.

Of course, you could make top pair and still lose, or make middle pair and win, etc. But I think this approximation should be pretty close (particularly since, with only two opponents, you don't have good implied odds on a str8 draw). Do you agree with my thinking here?

I don't like the flop call, though. You're barely getting odds for your overs at 7-1 even if they'd be good, and you could be up against an overpair and drawing dead to runner-runner.

And I'm not clear on the turn 3-bet; do you really think you can push him off an overpair?

nice!

how did you calculate these?

aseem

ok, what if you had this info:

in MP1, villain open-raises with AJ0, A7s, 65s.

in UTG+2, villain open-raises with A8o, KJ0, K6s.

in MP2 villain open-raises with AK0, JTs, J7s.

btw, he called down with A-high, no pair, no draw.

interesting, you didn't mention that. :-) (the numbers don't really show that.)

it becomes borderline, then. so basically, he's a LAG or a maniac.

in that case, the hand is either fine, or there are better spots so you should still fold pre-flop or on the flop.

aseem

I mistyped a couple of them; top pair should be 8.4% and two pair or better should be 3.5%. So total is about 16.5%, almost exactly 5-1.

Probably a call if villain is as bad postflop as this hand suggests.

(EDIT: Not to mention that you when you flop an OESD, you may actually have 14 outs, since 8's and 9's may still be good. Similarly, a gutshot (14.4% to flop one) may give you 10 outs.)

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Here are my calculations:

Odds of top pair: 6/50*24/49*23/48*3=.0844
(six 8's and 9's left in deck, 24 cards 2-7, 3 different card that could be the 8 or 9)

Odds of two pair/trips: 6/50*5/49*44/48 = .0337

Odds of FH/quads: 6/50 * 5/49 * 4/48 = .00102

Odds of str8: Flop must be 567, 67T, 7TJ, or TJQ. For each of the 4 combos, there are 6 different orders in which the cards could come (abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba). Odds of getting three specific cards in a specific order are 4/50*4/49*4/48.
So: 4*6*4/50*4/49*4/48=.0131

OESD and double belly buster are similar to str8.

OESD: 3*6* 4/50 * 4/49 * 40/48 = 0.0980

DBB: 2*6* 4/50*4/49*4/48 = 0.00653

Odds of an 8-outer hitting by the river is 31.45%
(0.098+.00653)*.3145= 3.29%

See any mistakes?

Fold the flop.

Why?

(I'm not disagreeing, obviously - but I'd like to hear your reasons)

the preflop call is an error as is the flop call and the turn 3-bet.

There are only 2 1/4 BB in the pot, and if even he only has over cards,you only have 6 outs.
then, if you hit, he has 6 outs.
Maybe he only has A3, or even 56, but he's likelyto bet the turn too, and I don't want any part of that.

I like your new sig, but if you ever have a toddler you'll need to child-proof your edges.

Sorry. Now it's out of my head.

If you want an opinion on how to play a hand please inlcude reads, especially when are the very basis for the way you played the hand. This is a waste of everyones time and energy. Now the thread moves to a totally different and useful line of thought rendering the other posts useless.

I personally play my blinds a little tighter than most mainly because of positional considerations but the preflop call seems fine. Custom is right the flop call is questionable.

His bet on the flop screams of pocket pair. And when the 8 hits the turn his raise is saying the same thing to me. I think your beat.

No, it screams of he raised preflop and it is checked to him on the flop, so he will continue to take the lead.

Hero bet the turn. Then got raised.