i think i was at the -80 BB mark at this point...

$3/6 limit he, absolute poker, nine-handed

pre-flop: akishore is button with Q Q
EP1 limps, ..., MP2 limps, MP3 limps, ... akishore raises, EP1 calls.

[i]"oh my god, will a big pair finally earn me some money?"
[tightest player in the world limp-reraises UTG]
"#@!$"
(but i told myself to be a man and capped anyway to retain control of the hand since i was in position...)

flop: Q J 10 (11 SB)
EP1 checks, akishore bets.

(the door card was beautiful, but this was a horrendous flop. when he checkraised, i decided to call and put in a raise on a good turn card...)

turn: K (7.5 BB)
EP1 checks, akishore ???

(so much for the good turn card...)

in case you guys haven't noticed, this weirdo has some kind of check-raising fetish.

do you bet for information and check through any river card if he calls, or do you just check and check/call any river, or do you bet and fold to a raise, or bet and check/call it down if he raises???

am i drawing dead???

what a wonderful game this poker is.

aseem

The only diamond the villian could reasonably have in his hand is the A . All the other high diamonds are out. He could have limp-reraised with AA, KK, or a hand like JTs.

Against AA (without the A ), you may win the pot with a bet here, and if you don't you have 11 outs to improve by the river.

Against AA (with the A ), you will get checkraised if you bet, and can let your hand go in this situation for one more bet unless the villian can make this play as a bluff. If you check the turn, you should probably call a river bet anyway.

Against KK, a bet may steal the pot. If you check, you only have two outs to improve, and will probably get called if you bet the river, since you showed weakness on the turn.

Against JTs, you have your opponent drawing dead. You should bet for value.

This seems like an easy bet to me if you're opponent is not a tricky player. You bet/fold to a raise on the turn. Against a trickier opponent, I still probably play the same way, but I'm not as happy when I fold to the turn raise instead of taking the free card.

Assuming that he doesn't hold the A , you have a number of tie outs in addition to your win outs.

1. my opponent was a freaking tight-ass. to not only play a hand under the gun, but to limp-reraise it, scared the living shit out of me. i thought: A-A / K-K / A-K, nothing else. a more realistic version was just A-A / K-K. an even more realistic version still was A-A only. eliminate J-T suited and all other hands out of your analysis.

2. i'm not stealing this pot with a bet. ever. anything he limp-reraises pre-flop and check-raises that hella scary flop with, he's not going to fold for "just" two more bets. so, eliminate "picking up the pot" as the purpose of a possible bet.

3. betting and folding to a raise ran through my mind. but, would i be making a mistake if i'm NOT drawing dead, since i'm folding for one bet, but in doing so, i forefeit a part of the pot that's mine that's worth more than one bet (equity)?

4. is the pot freaking big enough to call it down if i bet and am check-raised?

5. poker sucks.

6. am i failing to protect my hand or get value if i check behind? what the hell am i even protecting it from, much less getting value from??

(i practically know that my opponent has A-A / K-K / A-K, except on the offchance that he has seen me playing quite loose-aggressive and wants to "get back at me" or something. to be honest, i wouldn't even know if he was tilting or not. i wasn't watching him play, so i didn't even know if these freaking check-raises or limp-reraises were normal... i just knew that he was a damn tight player.)

7. is the pot big enough to show this down? is the pot big enough to ignore a read? is it too weak/tight to even go so far as to check the turn and check/fold any river UI?

aseem

Aseem:

I'd check behind... and check down the river (U/I). If he's as tight as you say than he's got Aces for the straight or K's for top set... Without Aces or the flush though, he might check down some hands on the river to you.

I really don't like bet/fold here. I really see a check/raise here coming if you do, and you would have to fold, rather than checking behind and hoping the board pairs, so you can more safely fire away. If first to act you may bet/ fold for the sake of Clarkmeister, but with the opportunity to check behind and improve, go for it.

I don't think you gain anything w/ a value bet here because I can't see any possible hand that would limp-reraise PF and not be ahead of you here. It seems to me that all hands that would either call or raise you have you beat. I also don't think you are protecting your hand from anything by betting the turn either. His hand is already made 90+ percent of the time here.

I really think it would be safe to even fold the river...

i checked behind...

river brought the Q .

he bet.

i couldn't force myself to not raise with quads.

stupid, of course.

he three-bet in like 0.0000000001 seconds.

i called.

he had A A .

wonderful.

aseem

That's pretty sick. Online poker is so rigged. (sw)

If you think your opponent is so tight that he will lay down any of these hands without the A when faced with a turn bet, you should bet. If check-raised, you can safely throw your hand away, since you know you are drawing dead. He only has to throw away his hand 1 every 8 hands for you to show a profit. He will have KK or AK more than this.

Of course, if you believe your opponent will call without the A , you should check the turn and fold to a river bet UI.

If you improve on the river to a full house, I would just call a bet or bet if it was checked to me, indicating he probably has nothing more than a straight, and he may call your bet, given the weakness you showed on the turn.

If you improve to quads, I would like to say I play the hand the same way as a full house, but I'm probably not going to be able to resist raising a river bet... :oops: