Im utg w/ J J 3/6 maniacal table.

I raise, maniac MP calls, new guy CO 3 bets, BB calls, everyone else calls, (12.5 SB)

flop J 5 6

BB checks, I bet, maniac calls, CO raises, BB calls, I threebet, maniac capps *Ive seen him do the exact same thing pf w/ 97s and on the flop w/ a flush draw*...everyone calls (14.25 BB)

turn 6x

I bet, maniac calls, CO calls, BB folds

river K

I bet, maniac folds, bb raises..I three bet, he capps...I call.

I called knowing what I was up against, but I 3bet hoping for AKd ..

I think my line couldve been different, like maybe a slower flop since Im not protecting crap from these guys, then I can get a c/r or even a 3bet turn.

Come on, tell us theres a happy ending and he DIDNT have kings.

At a maniacal table, I might check/raise the flop. Everything looks fine though. You're winning this often enough that the 3-bet is good, IMO.

yeah but dont you think that if I dont 3 bet the flop, on the turn I can get the maniac to bet, the CO to raise, and now I can c/r for bbs rather than SB's and get huge value from those chasing 2 outers (because thats really all anyone can be drawing live at)??

might be wrong here..am I being to greedy w/ that 2nd line?

I like the way you played it. You probably won't be able to protect the pot, so with the maniac next to you, you can juice the pot and show a fair bit of profit. If these guys have anything, they'll keep playing, and you might still be able to get some bets in on the turn. I don't think you missed any bets the way you played it. Since they slowed down on the turn, they probably would have regardless of the flop action. Good hand.

what's the question. this is looking like a bad beat story more and more

He wants to know how to get the most money in the pot.

yea, it was a bad beat, but I dont care I know I have the virtual nuts on the turn and I think I couldve made more money by playing the flop and turn differently, I dont know though...and no one is telling me.

well, if you are thinking that you could've CRed the turn, that would just be stupid. you played it fine