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screech
I had to edit this. It was late last night and I was lazy. I now have converted all the hands I feel have some meaning. Again, comments are appreciated.

My strategy was to play tight preflop, define my hand early postflop, and try my best to avoid any marginal situations where I'd be forced to make very difficult decisions. I watched a step 5 tournament before I played this one and with 5 players left (75/150 blinds), there were two people with about 3000 stacks, one 1500 stack, two stacks around 1000, and one short stack. I figured if I could hit a few hands early on, I may be able to increase my chips to over 2000, and just play safe, smart poker until there were 4 left. If I never hit any hands, I should still be able to keep my stack around 1000 when the blinds reached 50/100, and then I might be able to double up, or steal enough blinds to reach the money. As it turns out I was able to keep my stack at its original size when the blinds reached 75/150. I busted out in 6th.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t1000)
UTG (t1070)
UTG+1 (t970)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t985)
MP3 (t1070)
CO (t975)
Button (t960)
SB (t970)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [6s], [7c].
UTG calls t15, 1 fold, UTG calls t50, UTG+2 calls t50, MP1 calls t50.

Flop: (t282.50) [3d], [5s], [8d] (4 players)

Turn: (t282.50) [Kd] (4 players)

River: (t282.50) [2c] (4 players)

Final Pot: t282.50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t985)
BB (t1005)
UTG (t970)
UTG+1 (t2280)
MP1 (t985)
MP2 (t880)
MP3 (t975)
CO (t960)
Button (t960)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [9h], [5s].
1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t42.50) [Jh], [Ts], [6d] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t15, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: t57.50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t970)
SB (t990)
BB (t970)
UTG (t2310)
UTG+1 (t985)
MP1 (t880)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t960)
CO (t960)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [As], [6h].
6 folds.

Final Pot: t72.50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t995)
Button (t980)
SB (t955)
BB (t2310)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t880)
MP1 (t975)
MP2 (t960)
MP3 (t960)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [Ad], [Qc].
UTG calls t15, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t72.50) [Qd], [7h], [9s] (5 players)
SB bets t100, SB folds.

Final Pot: t422.50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t1155)
UTG (t1085)
UTG+1 (t550)
MP1 (t1340)
MP2 (t2045)
MP3 (t1080)
CO (t930)
Button (t915)
SB (t900)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [As], [Jd].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t120, MP1 calls t120.

Flop: (t495) [Td], [Qc], [3h] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets t150, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t1040.

Turn: (t1685) [Jh] (2 players)

River: (t1685) [8c] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1685

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1110)
Button (t1040)
SB (t370)
BB (t3500)
UTG (t1080)
UTG+1 (t930)
MP1 (t960)
MP2 (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [7s], [Ac].
7 folds.

Final Pot: t45

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1110)
CO (t1040)
Button (t355)
SB (t3515)
BB (t1080)
UTG (t930)
UTG+1 (t960)
MP1 (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [7s], [Ad].
4 folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: t295

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1110)
MP2 (t980)
CO (t355)
Button (t3455)
SB (t1200)
BB (t930)
UTG (t960)
UTG+1 (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [2h], [2s].
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (t135) [9d], [7s], [Tc] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t125, Hero folds, CO calls t125, BB folds.

Turn: (t385) [Ts] (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t385

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1080)
MP1 (t980)
MP2 (t585)
CO (t3455)
Button (t1185)
SB (t900)
BB (t805)
UTG (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [8s], [8h].
1 fold.

Final Pot: t145

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1125)
UTG (t980)
UTG+1 (t585)
MP1 (t3455)
MP2 (t1260)
CO (t885)
Button (t750)
SB (t960)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [5s], [5d].
1 fold.

Final Pot: t225

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t950)
Button (t145)
SB (t1320)
BB (t3455)
UTG (t2420)
MP1 (t1035)
MP2 (t675)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [Jh], [Kh].
6 folds.

Final Pot: t150

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

Hero (t1150)
BB (t1045)
UTG (t3455)
MP (t2550)
CO (t1275)
Button (t525)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Qd], [Td].
UTG raises to t300.

Final Pot: t450

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter

Hero (t875)
SB (t1045)
BB (t2480)
UTG (t2825)
MP (t675)
CO (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Qc], [Kh].
4 folds.

Flop: (t225) [Ah], [Th], [2c] (2 players)

Turn: (t225) [9c] (2 players)

River: (t225) [Qs] (2 players)

Final Pot: t225
offset
take some of the insignificant hands out and people will more likely read this.
custom36
There is no way in hell I'm reading that. Too many hands and not one is converted.
screech
back to the first page...
TJ_Eckleburg
The Bet the Pot format doesn't seem to work well with no limit cash games or tourneys.

If you re-read your own post, it doesn't show pesky important details like "betting action."

Try again.
Rocketwadster
You play weird.

I read every hand, and can't believe some of the hands you folded, some you called with (as opposed to raising) etc. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can see exactly why you finished in 6th. :?
Rocketwadster
You play weird.

I read every hand, and can't believe some of the hands you folded, some you called with (as opposed to raising) etc. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can see exactly why you finished in 6th. :?
gobears
Looks like the converter didn't work.

On the AQo in the CO, with two limpers, I raise it up to see where I'm at and get the blinds out of there. You called and ended up taking the pot when SB tried to buy the pot post-flop. Worked out for you but raising is better unless you're trying to mix it up.
screech
QUOTE
I read every hand, and can't believe some of the hands you folded, some you called with (as opposed to raising) etc.


I appreciate the critism, but some examples would help. Could you please let me know which hands you would play differently and why?

QUOTE
On the AQo in the CO, with two limpers, I raise it up to see where I'm at and get the blinds out of there. You called and ended up taking the pot when SB tried to buy the pot post-flop. Worked out for you but raising is better unless you're trying to mix it up.


Haha, yeah I hated this hand when I realized what happened. I thought the first limper raised and the second limper called. I actually considered reraising (which would have been impossible), but I decided to play my position instead. My jaw dropped when I saw how cheap I let the blinds in after the SB bet into 3 players. He could have easily made two pair.

On another note, I don't see any point in mixing it up in these short SNG's unless you notice you've played with some of the other players a fair bit. I usually just choose the play I feel is optimal.
Rocketwadster
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I appreciate the critism, but some examples would help.  Could you please let me know which hands you would play differently and why?


Some of my thoughts:

Dont complete from SB with 9 5 offsuit when only one person has limped in.

Don't just limp in with ace queen from CO. Raise it up to put pressure onthe blinds and narrow the field (its a good hand but can get you in trouble).

Why didn't you play the ace 7 hand from CO when nobody has entered the pot? You played ace 6 from button, same play should apply here, no?

Why would you call a hand with 2 2 with only one limper ahead of you? They are so bad it is scary. Put in a small raise or fold them pre-flop IMO.

You folded pocket 5's from the big blind for a small pre-flop raise (3X BB).

You didn't play King Jack suited from CO when nobody has entered the pot.

You didnt play king queen from the button when nobody has entered the pot.

Just my opinion. :wink:
screech
Thanks rocket.

I'll explain my reasoning behind my actions...

Dont complete from SB with 9 5 offsuit when only one person has limped in.


Blinds were 10/15 at this point. I figure I'm going to call anything here due to pot odds, in hopes I flop 2 pair.

Don't just limp in with ace queen from CO. Raise it up to put pressure onthe blinds and narrow the field (its a good hand but can get you in trouble).


Earlier noted mistake.

Why didn't you play the ace 7 hand from CO when nobody has entered the pot? You played ace 6 from button, same play should apply here, no?


You're right. I was playing a bit scared at the time, because any prize money would have been 50% of my bankroll. I need to keep my emotions out of poker.

Why would you call a hand with 2 2 with only one limper ahead of you? They are so bad it is scary. Put in a small raise or fold them pre-flop IMO.


I never posted all the hands, but a few early limpers in the pot created a domino effect of limpers (no raises) on some earlier hands. I had hoped to see a cheap flop, flop a set, take a monster pot, and cruise into the money. (High hopes I know)

You folded pocket 5's from the big blind for a small pre-flop raise (3X BB).

I have 7.5:1 chances to hit my set. UTG+1 has 485 after his 100 raise. If I call his raise, I don't have the right implied odds even if I could win all his money postflop. The only thing I debated was pushing UTG+1 all-in. But he was desperate and I'd at best be a 55-45 favorite, and could be in much worse shape than that. I wasn't willing to risk half my stack in this situation. I felt this was one of my better plays...

You didn't play King Jack suited from CO when nobody has entered the pot.

Something wrong with the bet-the0-pot format, I raised all-in here and took the blinds (50/100) :-)

You didnt play king queen from the button when nobody has entered the pot.

Again, the bet-the-pot format screwed up. This was the last hand I played. Blinds were 75/150, I went all-in, SB called with TT. I hit my queen, but he hit his T, doubled up, and went on to win :oops:


The only other hand I had trouble with was when I had AJ0 in the blind to a 5BB raise. Standard fold?
Rocketwadster
Well it wasn't as bad as I thought then if there was some formatting problems. I disagree with your reasonings on some, but that's poker I guess, where everybody has a different reason for playing the way they did. Sounds like you had a clear idea on each, which is much better than not knowing what to do. :wink:
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