econ_tim
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:20 PM
FullTilt $1/$2 5 handed (9 max)
Preflop: econ_tim
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, econ_tim completes, BB checks.
Flop: (3 SB) [6d 3h 5d]
econ_tim checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.
Turn: (1.5 BB) [Kc]
econ_tim checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.
River: (1.5 BB) [9d]
econ_tim checks ...
This is the kind of crap hand that puts me to sleep.
Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?
JaysonWeber
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:23 PM
I'd bet the river on the best hand... you probobly aren't beat here. Go ahead and bet it, ace high might call you down and any crap pair that hit the flop might call.
custom36
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:28 PM
I'm leading out the river as well.
And why aren't you playing Empire?
Dirtydutch
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:28 PM
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
I'd bet the river on the best hand... you probobly aren't beat here. Go ahead and bet it, ace high might call you down and any crap pair that hit the flop might call.
I'm with Weber.
econ_tim
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:30 PM
Thanks for the feedback.
And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker
JaysonWeber
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:36 PM
QUOTE (econ_tim)
Thanks for the feedback.
And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker

You doing the rakeback?
custom36
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 7:38 PM
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
QUOTE (econ_tim)
Thanks for the feedback.
And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker

You doing the rakeback?
No. He used me as a referral.
Smasharoo
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 8:57 PM
Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?
I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.
The pot. She is tiny.
akishore
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:29 PM
i don't bet that!
third diamond.
a lot of players check weak kings on the flop and turn.
pot's tiny.
you can induce a bluff by check-calling.
you can induce a player to bet A-3 UI by check-calling.
if you have the best hand, you'll win it at showdown anyway.
i check-call this against a loose or aggressive player or bluffer, and check-fold against a non-bluffer or passive player. (i think i check-call without reads, but check-folding is way okay too... tiny pot.)
aseem
akishore
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:30 PM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
The pot. She is tiny.
i should have just saved my typing and took the 30 seconds to read the respones and just quoted you.
aseem
XXEddie
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:32 PM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?
I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.
The pot. She is tiny.
diamond draw
78
.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit
....id probably check/call one bet
akishore
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:38 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie)
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?
I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.
The pot. She is tiny.
diamond draw
78
.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit
....id probably check/call one bet
9-6/9-5/9-3/K-9.
slowplayed K-x.
slowplayed 10-10/J-J/-Q-Q/A-A.
slowplayed 4-2/7-4.
slowplayed 6-6/5-5/3-3.
slowplayed 6-5/6-3/5-3.
you missed his entire point.
aseem
allinbluff35
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:41 PM
QUOTE (akishore)
QUOTE (XXEddie)
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?
I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.
The pot. She is tiny.
diamond draw
78
.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit
....id probably check/call one bet
9-6/9-5/9-3/K-9.
slowplayed K-x.
slowplayed 10-10/J-J/-Q-Q/A-A.
slowplayed 4-2/7-4.
slowplayed 6-6/5-5/3-3.
slowplayed 6-5/6-3/5-3.
you missed his entire point.
aseem
eddie shouldn't be allowed to post in strategy, he should have to stick to general/bad beats section
Smasharoo
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:44 PM
diamond draw
78
.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit
....id probably check/call one bet
Please stop posting here and hurting the forum. Seriously.
econ_tim
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 9:46 PM
Nice to get lots of discussion on mundane hands like these. Consistently making the wrong move in small pots with marginal hands would be a big leak.
Vade
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 11:09 PM
If there was anything in this pot, then I'd consider betting on the river but 1.5 BB? Lol Check/fold is fine
Hell it might get checked around and you still win
JaysonWeber
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Vade)
If there was anything in this pot, then I'd consider betting on the river but 1.5 BB? Lol Check/fold is fine
Hell it might get checked around and you still win

I didnt even look at pot size... woops, just check/call it for that stuff... God that pots tiny.
JaysonWeber
Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Custom36)
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
QUOTE (econ_tim)
Thanks for the feedback.
And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker

You doing the rakeback?
No. He used me as a referral.
Sucks for him.
econ_tim
Wednesday, June 29th, 2005, 6:46 AM
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
Sucks for him.
Yeah, I only plan on playing at Empire to clear some bonuses. Maybe rakeback would be worth a little more. I should try and figure out how much rake I pay per hand, etc.
mk
Wednesday, June 29th, 2005, 6:52 AM
QUOTE (econ_tim)
QUOTE (JaysonWeber)
Sucks for him.
Yeah, I only plan on playing at Empire to clear some bonuses. Maybe rakeback would be worth a little more. I should try and figure out how much rake I pay per hand, etc.
I think by the time you clear the bonus at Party/Empire you will never want to play on another site again. Ever.
econ_tim
Wednesday, June 29th, 2005, 7:03 AM
QUOTE (mk)
I think by the time you clear the bonus at Party/Empire you will never want to play on another site again. Ever.
That's what I hear. I plan on getting rakeback at Party and playing there a lot.
XXEddie
Wednesday, June 29th, 2005, 8:11 AM
QUOTE (Smasharoo)
diamond draw
78
.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit
....id probably check/call one bet
Please stop posting here and hurting the forum. Seriously.
I dont post in Strategy to often
....But ill do it more, just to annoy allinbluff and yourself
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