I played in an Omaha HL PL Tourny the other night, and I wound up winning, but I ran into a hand on the shortstack that i didn't know how to play...in fact there are a lot of hands like this that I need help with. The flop comes

Q 7 8 rainbow and I'm the SB holding 10 J x x

I bet the pot on the flop and I get raised the pot by one player, called by the next, so I just call.

The next card is a 6 so I check the turn and the next player bets the pot, gets called, and I again call.

The river is a 6, I check, the better bets the pot and the next guy RAISES the pot (very big pot by now) and I have no choice but to fold.

The better calls with 8-8 and the raiser shows q-q for the nut full house.

I don't know what to do in this situation because I feel like I wasted the nuts, which I had all the way to the river. However, by checking I saved myself money because I don't think I would have been able to get either play off his hand. What would you do in this situation?? Did I play it right?

(I also didn't have any low cards to make a low to justify calling in case that comes up)

thanks...

Uhm... unless you posted it wrong, all you had was a gutshot straight draw.

you and ted lawson need to figure out what makes a straight...4 to a straight isnt a straight

Fold that garbage after the first raise. You had 4 outs, and were vulnerable to redraws if you actually hit the turn. A 10.5-1 shot is in no way worth a call of a pot-sized raise. You were getting 2-1 after the raise-call, with maybe 4-1 implied odds (generously), depending on stack sizes, since two to the low was on board and you didn't have any low draw.

Unless you mistyped. I suspect you really saw Q89 on the flop.

you guys were right...

it was Q 9 8, and sorry about the mistype...it was the nuts on the flop...no gutshot here lol :-)

Ah... well, in that case. Reraising the flop might be the way to go, but I would think you might get the 88 outta there, but there's no way you're gonna get the top set to drop here, I don't think. One of those times when Omaha is a killer. Also realize you're only playing for half the pot, since you have no lo. I guess maybe this is a time to have folded preflop with nothing happening low. Anyways, when the board paired, it's an "aw, fuck" sorta moment.

You played stop n' go on the flop to the raise. I like that. I don't think reraising is necessarily a good idea here, so you played it ok.

EDIT: If you are playing stop and go, you gotta be betting out the turn. Originally I wrote that check-raising was an option. I don't think it is.

On the river... good fold.

As far as getting the "88" to drop here I thought you guys might like to know how I beat him later on in the night

I'm holding QQ84 double suited and the flop comes Q 8 4 (good flop for me)

I bet the pot, he reraises the pot, I reraise, and he goes all in...

I flip my cards and he flips over 2 3 J K and says "I need a low card..."

he put in all of chips to split the pot....


I'll never understand some people