Congrats.

Has he been knocked out? And if so what place did he finish?

Like 75th place.

He made the money finishing in 75th? Wow how many people in the tournament?

one of the two days had 201 people to thin down to 130 to merge with the other flight... sooo... 400+ entries in total??

Here's a great source of info:

http://caribbeanpokeradventure.blogspot.com/

Greg Raymer came in 35th? Guess he must not be that bad afterall...

Eskim0 - that just the chip count (re: Raymer) going into tomorrow.

Well i read that Daniel doubled Greg when Greg's AK allin got called by Dan's AQ. That really set Daniel to the shortstack i think.

Dont ya just hate it when the cards seem to work against ya like that?

Dont ya just hate it when the cards seem to work against ya like that?


When you call an all in with a badly dominated hand the cards aren't working against you...

I'd be intrested to see the situation behind the hand, I'm sure there's some valid reason for a call there with AQ, Raymer's trademark semi-LAGness probably being a not small factor.

it was to make the money. i guess negreanu just wanted to try and knock raymer out of the money. instead, some other poor guy lost with like J A to K 9 to finish on the bubble lol.

Had he knocked Raymer out, he should have had some sort of trophy :-) I cant stand Greg. That´s just plain ul. To go up Aq against Ak. Damn, but he will be back. I got a feeling 8) . I guess the cards didnt go Daniels way in the carribean. Btw is it held on a resort, or on a Cruiseship?

it was held in a casino. it was the first ever legal hand of poker in the bahamas, pokerstars.com had to build a poker room basically from scratch.

Greg is in 35th chip position. He has not been eliminated.

greg is a great player and is no fluke. he has given reliable info on other forums for years and has a 3rd place finish in the world poker finals main event at foxwoods, not to mention being a regular winner in the big mixed games at foxwoods (75-150)
he also happens to be a nice, humble person willing to help people to play better poker long before he was famous. one thing that i can assure you is that knocking greg out on the bubble did not enter into daniels decision in that hand.
matty

Can't win them all eh?!

USELESS!

I went to the Atlantis for spring break a couple of years ago...it's absolutely amazing...the makeshift poker room was made out of a big ballroom...I figured they would have poker there by now... All they have is blackjack, roulette, craps, baccarat...etc...weird for a fairly large casino...I did make a killing on the blackjack table though...anyone know why they don't/haven't had poker there or in the Bahamas yet?

You completely missed my point. It is unfortunate to get a hand like AQ at the same time that some gets AK. It's like when you get KK and someone has AA. It's like the cards want you to fail in those cases.

I got knocked out of the Limit Hold Em Negreanu Open with my KK being beaten by AA. Its amazing online how many times you see 2 or even more high pocket pairs against each oher.

As for Daniel cashing in at the WPT event. He plays more than that in a single hand at the Bellagio. However, constant high finishes will help in the rankings to keep his player of the year crown I would imagine?

Did you read the Cigar Aficionado article about Greg a month or two ago that was published after the time ESPN ran the 2004 WSOP? The guy should be highly revered for the way he approached his game. He managed his wife's discomfort with it by making a nice agreement with her about a starting bankroll, learned the trade in local casinos and on-line, won quite a bit of local tournaments apparently at Foxwoods which was only 15 minutes from his home, and even had enough faith in his play to sell shares in his play to alot of people for $5,000 each. Granted, he had to be good enough for people to buy in, but he followed through. In the article, he says that of his $5 million prize from the 2004 WSOP Main Event, about $2.5-$3 million (can't remember the exact amount) was immediately paid back to 'investors.' I think one guy's 10 shares ($50K) paid back over $360,000 or so. Not a bad ROI.

I respect Greg for what he accomplished. He has a very agreesive style of play and when he's got cards and chips, he plays them strong. What we haven't seen is how he plays when he isn't the chip leader or doesn't have say premium cards. He was a bit loose at that WSOP Champions Event that Annie Duke won.



Exactly...that was the first thing I thought here...all-in with AQ! The table couldn't have been playing that shorthanded if Daniel was out in 75th, there still have to be a full ring there so AQ isn't that strong.

You completely missed my point. It is unfortunate to get a hand like AQ at the same time that some gets AK. It's like when you get KK and someone has AA. It's like the cards want you to fail in those cases.


No, it's not like having KK at all.

It's like having 66 and calling an all in from 77. Calling an all in with AQ is a marginal play. Again, I'm curious about the specifics of the hand.

If you call all in with 23 and someone has 43, it's not "the cards working against you". It's you callinng with the worst hand which will be the worst hand most of the time.

Yes...I didn't miss your point....I think we both thought marginal play at best going all in with AQ. Cards aren't working against you when you make marginal plays, you are working against you.

Yes you did miss my point. I'm not talking about good vs bad plays. I'm just saying that when two people at the same table have AQ and AK, it's as if the game is setting someone up to lose some chips. Sure you might avoid losing your pants by playing smart. But the Poker Gods are setting traps, curse them!

All in with AQ is always marginal, lay of the cards or not since you really don't always have an idea of what your opponent has. Even worse if you go all-in with AQ or something marginal and someone with a bigger hand gets to act behind you cold.

I don't quite understand how all of you guys can sit here and nitpick the AQ vs AK play, without knowing ANYTHING about the situation. Certainly AQ can be a marginal hand at times, and other times it can be a very good hand. What were the positions, stack, or blinds? How long were they at the table together, and how much were they mixing it up?

It's just like watching TV poker, thinking you know exactly how someone plays based on a few edited hands.

It cracks me up how a bunch of guys who probably predominantly play low stakes poker online can critisize a hand between two guys like Raymer and Daniel. No offense...

It cracks me up how a bunch of guys who probably predominantly play low stakes poker online can critisize a hand between two guys like Raymer and Daniel. No offense...


Yeah, if only someone that predominately plays low stakes poker onlie would come in and set them striaght.