r18
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Live sit and go. 5 players left. I have 1225 chips. We started with 2000.
I'm small blind and blinds are 100/200. Under the gun limps in. I complete with king 6 off. Big blind checks. They both have big stacks.
Flop 4, 4, 6.
I act first. 600 in pot.
What would you do?
Check to trap? (But then do I call if one of them puts me all in?)
Push in? (But am I only going to get called if I'm beat?)
Bet small to gain info? (But do I then call if I get reraised?)
I'll tell you what I did and what happened but I am very curious what other's do in this situation.
Thanks
BeanGW
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 11:49 AM
I don't think I would have even completed from the SB there... you don't really have the chips to be playing around with K-6 off with just a UTG limper. But I guess it can be argued either way.
Meh... with this flop, I'd push. This is a pretty lousy board for a UTG limper who likely just has a couple of over cards. Depends a bit on my reads of the UTG player though.
Maybe he's sneaky and limped in with a monster??? If he probably would have raised pf with anything I don't have beat at this point, I'm probably pushing. If he calls, it may bea race where he has a couple of overcards to the board.
Generally, in a tourney situation, where I think it's gonna be a race, I think the push is best because your fold equity pushes the situation more in your favor.
Just my .02
cdddc75
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 12:11 PM
I openFarrell K6 off on the flop all day long.
Seriously, I probably push here as well. If you were willing to invest anything on that hand preflop, you might as well push here. Blind pressure is climbing rapidly.
gobears
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 12:12 PM
I fold this before the flop as I'm either pushing or folding with that small of a stack.
But now that I'm in, I push as I figure that I'm probably ahead of the two other hands.
Rocketwadster
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 12:42 PM
First, you fold pre-flop. By folding, you are assuring yourself a few free hands, where you are more than likely to obtain better cards than King 6 offsuit.
Since you didn't fold pre-flop, you should go all-in pre-flop, either picking up the blinds, doubling up (or more depending), or getting put out.
Since you didn't go all-in pre-flop, now you have put yourself into a quandry. IMO, your only recourse now is to push em all-in, so there really is no decision that you need to make (after deciding you screwed up pre-flop and didn't follow point one or point two as I indicated above), putting the decision to your opponents instead. :wink:
r18
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 1:04 PM
Thanks for the responses.
I might normally fold preflop here but the under the gun guy was playing alot of hands. Moving all in preflop also seems like a better alternative than calling but these are weak players and I don't think they will necesarily fold.
So I had a weak moment where I decided to complete the blind to win the 500 chips already on the table.
Now I figured I was ahead when the flop came and here's where I made this hand even worse. Rather than move all in I decided to bet 400, kind of hoping to get a call. Me and my king 6 were actually trying to get more chips out of them! That's how poorly I played this hand.
I was actually hoping they'd think I was doing a weak job of stealing. Looking back today this sounds horrible. But I'm being honest.
Big blind then raises it to 1200. Under the gun folds. It's back to me.
Now of course I should call here. It's what I wanted. He probably thinks I'm bluffing. But I suddenly talk myself into the fact that he could have a 4. He's the big blind in a limped pot.
I suddenly decide that my 825 chips remaining are more important than the 600 I've put in. More important than doubling up.
So I fold.
The crowd isn't saying r18. They're saying boo.
I decide that 3 of the players left are so bad that I'm better off seeing cards than gambling that the big blind doesn't have a 4.
So now you're thinking why did I call preflop if I wasn't going to bet when I hit my flop?
Exactly.
Cause I made a terrible play.
Thank you for letting my confess.
TheIceman05
Wednesday, June 15th, 2005, 2:02 PM
QUOTE (r18)
Exactly.
Cause I made a terrible play.
Thank you for letting my confess.
Oh man! That's terrible! Holy crap! Thanks for being honest though, man... at least you're not kidding yourself.
Push the flop. You have no visibility and overcards are going to raise a small-ish bet. What if you get cold-called and a queen comes off on the turn? Jack? Ten?
Easy push. If you're against a slowplayed 77, give it up to him. But you're probably not. People push preflop most of the time with everything but AA and KK, and even then they probably push or raise. You're either against a slowplayed monster, an unlucky 4, or you're way ahead
Push
Ice
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