econ_tim
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 1:44 PM
Full Tilt $.50/$1 (withdrew $800 to deposit at Noble)
Preflop: econ_tim
econ_tim calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) [9c Th 3c]
SB bets, 1 fold, econ_tim Button calls, SB calls.
[b]Turn: (5 BB) [7h]
SB checks, econ_tim checks, Button checks.
River: (5 BB) [8d]
SB bets, econ_tim calls.
Final pot: (14 BB)
On flop was trying to buy free card, didn't work. On river thought calling might win more than raising, then wasn't sure about reraise. Unlikely Button would call two cold on flop with QJ (unless he also had club draw), but he could easily have a lone J.
Kendren
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 1:51 PM
I think QJ bets on the turn to try and punish anybody with a newly found heart draw. I would 3 bet this with 2 others in the pot with me.
RISEorFall
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 2:18 PM
SB probably hit a pair, then checked on the turn as you representing a better pair. He might've hit two pair on the river, or might've taken your check on the turn as he had the best hand. You might be splitting with another lone J, in which case cap the river. You'd be putting in 1/3 of the money to win 1/2.
But I've seen a lot of players bet into a PF raiser with draws, and the button calling 2 cold on the flop screams OESD. So, I like the play here, You could be splitting but you could just as easily be beat.
EDIT: I doubt QJ bets the turn to punish flush draws. The draw isn't folding and QJ has nothing yet but Q high. In fact, they have fewer outs now than they did before. Plus most players at this limit don't understand the concept of punishing draws.
wrto4556
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 4:17 PM
Raise preflop.
Because you didn't raise, the pot is too small on the flop to raise. You *barely* have enough odds to call...if you even do. The flop is close between calling and folding.
The rest of the hand was played good.
econ_tim
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 5:08 PM
I agree with raising preflop since it is seven handed. I guess I need to better adjust my play as people leave and enter the game. Usually it is nine-handed, and sometimes I don't notice people leaving since I'm multi-tabling.
If this was nine-handed, would you still raise preflop?
avsfan
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 5:30 PM
QUOTE (econ_tim)
I agree with raising preflop since it is seven handed. I guess I need to better adjust my play as people leave and enter the game. Usually it is nine-handed, and sometimes I don't notice people leaving since I'm multi-tabling.
If this was nine-handed, would you still raise preflop?
If I play it. I am raising it 9-10 handed.
RISEorFall
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 7:40 PM
this is definately a hand you either raise or fold PF. 7 handed, 9 handed, doesnt matter.
wrto4556
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 9:41 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
Raise preflop.
Because you didn't raise, the pot is too small on the flop to raise. You *barely* have enough odds to call...if you even do. The flop is close between calling and folding.
The rest of the hand was played good.
Actually, if you think you can get a free card often enough by raising, it might be ok. I have to run some calcs.
Raise AJo no matter how many people.
cdddc75
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 9:46 PM
Open limping with a high card hand is brutal.
You don't want multiway action with that hand.
Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there.
econ_tim
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 9:56 PM
Thanks for the advice. I'm finding that SSHE repays careful review. From page 73, under Big Offsuit Broadways: Raise any of these hands if it has not already been raised. I guess it didn't stick with me the the first time and it doesn't show up in the hand chart, but it's there nonetheless.
Anyway, I made some adjustments to my preflop play tonight and I'm feeling pretty good about it.
wrto4556
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (cdddc75)
Open limping with a high card hand is brutal.
You don't want multiway action with that hand.
Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there.
no. You want overcalls because it's either a split or your beat.
cdddc75
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
QUOTE (cdddc75)
Open limping with a high card hand is brutal.
You don't want multiway action with that hand.
Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there.
no. You want overcalls because it's either a split or your beat.
SB never bets a 6 there? Or fires out with two pair after the turn gets checked?
I'll take my chances here by raising. I'm not capping though.
wrto4556
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 11:01 PM
Man, im fucking retarded. I forgot the SB was the one that bet into us on the flop.
cdddc75
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 11:16 PM
QUOTE (wrto4556)
Man, im fucking retarded. I forgot the SB was the one that bet into us on the flop.
It's Friday night. No worries. I've got people capping against me when I flop quads and such.
Good times.
monoatomic
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 11:23 PM
ahh yes it is friday...hahaha..
Was wondering why I just had a 100bb upswing, and I didn't recognize anyone I was sitting with.
cdddc75
Friday, June 3rd, 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (monoatomic)
ahh yes it is friday...hahaha..
Was wondering why I just had a 100bb upswing, and I didn't recognize anyone I was sitting with.
I

Friday night poker!
RISEorFall
Saturday, June 4th, 2005, 1:09 AM
QUOTE (cdddc75)
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Friday night poker!
I lkove Friday night Jack n Coke. And the O8 players at Absolute Poker...
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