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Hand_Cracker
Just wondering how strict everyone is on starting hands in Pl Omaha Hi
and what specific hands you will and will not play.
Mr_Lo
I only play with a starting hand of trips if they are aces, kings or if I am on the button on an unraised pot with a suited contector. I could go on all day about starting hands but I thought I would just share that piece of info with ya incase you were new to the game.
Kendren
Yeah, trips is an auto fold, unless it's trip aces and one of them is suited with your 4th card.

Folding is easy with ragged gapped connectors (ex. 6h-9d-2s-Jh), and with a rainbow pocket (ex. 5s-7c-Ah-Td). If it's not suited in any way, don't even consider calling. I generally try to limit myself to playing doublesuited hands with both suits Q high or better, preferably with at least a suited A. Pairs 88-AA I'll give a play too, lower if I have some high connectors/suiteds.

IMO, the part of Omaha that's difficult is letting go of weak draws after the flop. If all you're drawing to is the butt end of a straight, let it go (except bottom Broadway, of course). Top pair with lots of action in front of you isn't very good. 2 pair on a coordinated board can be deadly. Many people here have said Omaha is a drawing to the nuts game, and I agree. I generally do well assuming I'm always behind unless I have the best hand or a draw to the best hand, and go from there. Good luck!
cdddc75
Kendren, you wouldn't play Ac As Kd Kh and such?
Kendren
It would be a positional decision, to be honest. I'd REALLY like one of those to be suited. I doubt I would raise it unless I was mp3 or later in low stakes limit. I think I wwould give it a play, but your draws are very limited if you don't catch your set. I did say up there I would give most pairs 88-AA a play, and lower if I had high suiteds. I just don't like playing too many hands without some kind of flush draw. But if there was ever a hand you were gonna play without a flush draw, that would be it. Although I think I'd rather have like Ah-Kd-Qs-Jc or something of that nature.
shortfuze
I just started playing omaha. last night i played a bunch of pot limit omaha on UB and i tried to keep my starting requirements pretty high despite the fact that the table was shorthanded with rarely more than 5 at the table at any given time. I was amazed at what people would continue to bet with on such scary boards. got pushed off lower flushes a few times with two raises in front of me only to see one guy turn over two pair and the other the low end of a straight or a set. i generally liked to see flops with hands that were double sutied, connected in some way even it not suited, two pair hands, giving me twice the outs to hit a set (that seemed to happen to me several times), i tried to not play too many hands where i had three to a suit in my hand unless i at least had an ace and maybe a pair already. following these very basic guidelines i managed to triple my buy in last night. if i have could gotten off middle set once, and off the nut flush once with the board pairing on the river, i would have made more like 5-6 times my buyin, and frankly i consider myself quite bad. just seemed like nobody knew they had to use exactly two cards from their hand. if anyone had two pair or better or TPTK they were usually at least calling through the turn. i think i will have to start playing more omaha. i cannot imagine what someone that knew what they were doing could do to those low limit tables. later guys.
-shortfuze

also noticed that there was very little raising pre -flop allowing me to often play hands with low pairs in the hole for cheap, that paid off a few times. if there was a pre-flop raise you could be assured someone had QQ-AA or at least AKs with a pair in the hole. that made it easier to fold to top sets a few times.
e3monroe
i'm rather new to omaha but i like to play hands like 5567 or any combination of that sorts. i prefer raising with a hand like that as compared to AAxx or KKxx. And i like connectors that are 2 cards apart like 78JQ. Also like A2-45,35,34,56, stuff like that is fun to come in with a raise with, especially with the ace suited with one of them. And then it also depends how many people are in the hand and the image certain people are giving off. I noticed a trend that some people who come in for a pot size raise love to make a pot size bet no matter what the flop comes. Personally I think connecting cards give u the most chances at success and be awfully leery of bottom set...I learned the hard way.
Kendren
QUOTE (e3monroe)
i'm rather new to omaha but i like to play hands like 5567 or any combination of that sorts. i prefer raising with a hand like that as compared to AAxx or KKxx.  And i like connectors that are 2 cards apart like 78JQ.  Also like A2-45,35,34,56, stuff like that is fun to come in with a raise with, especially with the ace suited with one of them.  And then it also depends how many people are in the hand and the image certain people are giving off.  I noticed a trend that some people who come in for a pot size raise love to make a pot size bet no matter what the flop comes.  Personally I think connecting cards give u the most chances at success and be awfully leery of bottom set...I learned the hard way.


Very wise there. 5567 or TTJ9 or something of that sort can be fun hands to play, but they can also get you into a LOT of trouble. As many people have said, omaha is a game of drawing to the nuts. While those hands can give you the nut straight, rarely will they give you the nut anything else. TTJ9 can sometimes hit top boat, 5567 very, very rarely will. And neither gives you a good flush possibility. While they're fun to play, I don;t think I would open with or call a raise with those. See a cheap flop with them.

Connectors do have much added value in omaha as well, but it's nice to be paired and definately suited in there. Many people say AAKK doublesuited is the best starting hand, I personally would be more excited with AAKQ. Basically you have to find what you're comfortable with, and whether you can get away from marginal hands like bottom straight or bottom set to big bets. IF you can, you can go ahead and be looser. If not, you should really tighten up.

SSL.
greatwhite
I think many people overplay kkxx too much. I think you have to lay down hands like kk27 offsuit in early and middle position. All your hoping for is a set and this is a game where straights and flushes dominate so in reality your looking for the board to pair anything, but aces along with your set.
greatwhite
I would only limp in in the small blind with trip aces, (kings,with a 9 or higher, queens with a ten or higher, jacks with a king or ace, and 10s with an ace). Maybe limp in on the button with aaax(higher than a 10) ss kkka ss and qqqa ss, but no other hands. I'd never play quads. You can't make, a straight, a flush, quads, or trips. You can only make a a pair, 2 pair, and a full house. Getting quads are interesting, because you can't make trips, but you can make a full house.
Kendren
QUOTE (greatwhite)
I think many people overplay kkxx too much. I think you have to lay down hands like kk27 offsuit in early and middle position. All your hoping for is a set and this is a game where straights and flushes dominate so in reality your looking for the board to pair anything, but aces along with your set.


True, but if you're double suited, it might be worth a look. Especioally in low LO.
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