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amarillotg
im on tilt and i suck. plus im a donk.

please give advice on the following: pre-flop, flop, turn and river.

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Preflop: Hero? is Button with T:spade:, T:diamond:.
2 folds.

Flop: (11 SB) J:heart:, J:club:, Q:spade: (5 players, 1 all-in)
SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9:diamond: (5 players, 1 all-in)
SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls, SB folds.

River: (10.50 BB) A:club: (4 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
BeanGW
Preflop call of the raise... iz OK cauz it's gonna be a big pot, and you've got the start of somethin nice maybe.

Beyond that... I'd just get outta there if there's any action. You're hoping to hit a set, or see some undercards and ya got neither. This looks like a hand that will be huge, and between Jack's full and Q's full, or something strange like that.
Rock Crawler
Yes, you could have. Raise and reraise on every street would have been a lot worse.
Zarathustra
3-bet preflop

fold flop

call turn

fold river

Zara
Dirtydutch
I would have Raised Pre-flop, but I don't hate the call.
after that, get the hell out of doge.
KDawgCometh
easy threebet PF. After that everything changes. Obviously you peel one off because of the pot size, plus massive implied odds if you boat up, or improve to an oesd or gut shot. Easy river fold, even for one bet, since all you can beat is a series of bluffs
wrto4556
3-bet preflop

The hand plays different from there. The way you played it, I fold the flop...Calling isnt bad on the turn...Fold the river.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (wrto4556)
3-bet preflop

The hand plays different from there. The way you played it, I fold the flop...Calling isnt bad on the turn...Fold the river.


chris, even though you are getting sweet implied odds and the pot size to peel with 2.5 outs?
wrto4556
We have to make up 6BB when we hit. I don't think we can unless someone has a Q. And if that's the case, we have to dodge cards and pray that our hand is good.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (wrto4556)
We have to make up 6BB when we hit. I don't think we can unless someone has a Q. And if that's the case, we have to dodge cards and pray that our hand is good.


you mean that we can't possibly pick up lots of bets if MP2 has AK and had just hit broadway, or from someone holding a Jack? I think so. If it was HU, yea, but the other player along for the ride I think makes this a peel
Rock Crawler
QUOTE (Zarathustra)
3-bet preflop

fold flop

call turn

fold river

Zara



How do you fold flop and then call the turn??
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (Rock Crawler)
QUOTE (Zarathustra)
3-bet preflop

fold flop

call turn

fold river

Zara



How do you fold flop and then call the turn??



:doh:
Zarathustra
QUOTE (Rock Crawler)
QUOTE (Zarathustra)
3-bet preflop

fold flop

call turn

fold river

Zara



How do you fold flop and then call the turn??


Since he decided to call on the flop, the call on the turn is correct with the open ended straight draw.

As for KDawg, without the 3-bet preflop I don't like the call on the flop. IF you hit the 10 on the turn AND your hand holds up then I think you can make up the extra bets. Other than an AK, most other hands that are going to bet with you either have you beat with QQ J10 or JQ or a redraw with JX. You don't have to be beat or redrawn on the river very often for this call to be VERY bad since it's a slim call assuming a fullhouse would hold up. The reverse implied odds are enough to make this a fold in my book.

Zara
amarillotg
i really wanted to 3 bet this PF but i totally pussed out with 2 cold callers in between me and the initial raiser.

question. what am i doing if i 3 bet this PF and the flop comes with overcards to my tens and im lead into?

im assuming this is an automatic fold with this many people in the pot?
Zarathustra
QUOTE (amarillotg)
i really wanted to 3 bet this PF but i totally pussed out with 2 cold callers in between me and the initial raiser.

question.  what am i doing if i 3 bet this PF and the flop comes with overcards to my tens and im lead into?

im assuming this is an automatic fold with this many people in the pot?


It's only a fold if it's bet and raised before it gets to you. If it's only bet you have decent odds to try and hit a 10 on the turn. Peel one off and go from there (In this case you also picked up an OESD on the turn, so you'd call a turn bet as well.)

Zara
cdddc75
Agree with the others that say the three bet preflop changes everything. Calling two cold with TT on the button is terrible.
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